From: Jerry on

"BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com" <bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> wrote in
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: On Jul 5, 10:41 pm, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
: > Indy Jess John <jimwar...(a)OMITblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled
happily, sounding
: > much like they were saying:
: >
: > >> The one thing that IS for certain is that this has nothing
to do with
: > >> the other driver personally.
: >
: > >> This is entirely between the triumvirate of the OP, his
insurer and
: > >> their body shop.
: > > Not so. The other driver was responsible for the damage,
and in the
: > > absence of a satisfactory repair, they are responsible for
reparations.
: >
: > No, they aren't. The OP claimed from his own insurance
company. The other
: > driver's insurance's only involvement is paying the OP's
insurer back.
:
: Beginning to wish I hadnt involved my own insurance and instead
gone
: straight to the 3rd party/their insurers and told them to sort
it or
: else.

Can we please get something straight, is the miss-match colour
wrong or is the old paintwork the problem, if the former then you
*still* have a claim against the original repairer [1], if the
latter you are in the shady area called "Betterment", no
insurance company is going to pay for such work nor can the 3rd
party be held responsible for prior deterioration of the vehicle.

[1] you might be better seeking an opinion of another, and more
specialist, vehicle bodyshop, a business more used to working
on/restoring the older car than a place whose business model
means that volume is more important than quality...
--
Regards, Jerry.


From: BertieBigBollox on
On Jul 7, 1:26 pm, "Jerry" <mapson.sca...(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote:
> "BertieBigBol...(a)gmail.com" <bertiebigbol...(a)gmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:19a7df9c-55c7-4358-95f9-deb7ababb409(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
> : On Jul 5, 10:41 pm, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> : > Indy Jess John <jimwar...(a)OMITblueyonder.co.uk> gurgled
> happily, sounding
> : > much like they were saying:
> : >
> : > >> The one thing that IS for certain is that this has nothing
> to do with
> : > >> the other driver personally.
> : >
> : > >> This is entirely between the triumvirate of the OP, his
> insurer and
> : > >> their body shop.
> : > > Not so.  The other driver was responsible for the damage,
> and in the
> : > > absence of a satisfactory repair, they are responsible for
> reparations.
> : >
> : > No, they aren't. The OP claimed from his own insurance
> company. The other
> : > driver's insurance's only involvement is paying the OP's
> insurer back.
> :
> : Beginning to wish I hadnt involved my own insurance and instead
> gone
> : straight to the 3rd party/their insurers and told them to sort
> it or
> : else.
>
> Can we please get something straight, is the miss-match colour
> wrong or is the old paintwork the problem, if the former then you
> *still* have a claim against the original repairer [1], if the
> latter you are in the shady area called "Betterment", no
> insurance company is going to pay for such work nor can the 3rd
> party be held responsible for prior deterioration of the vehicle.
>
> [1] you might be better seeking an opinion of another, and more
> specialist, vehicle bodyshop, a business more used to working
> on/restoring the older car than a place whose business model
> means that volume is more important than quality...
> --
> Regards, Jerry.

Probably (2) to be honest.

However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with paintwork that
matches regardless of betterment? I dont care how they achieve it I
just want the car back as it was before.

Because surely now rather than betterment, I'm left with a car worth
less. Why should I be the one to lose out? Especially when the
accident was blatantly not my fault.
From: Adrian on
"BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com" <bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying:

> However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with paintwork that
> matches regardless of betterment?

<sigh>

YET again - they need to mix the paint to match the car, not the code.

I'm presuming that, in the time this thread's been going, you've actually
taken it back to them and complained about the paint match? What was
their response?
From: Jerry on

"BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com" <bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> wrote in
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<snipped for brevity>
: However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with
: paintwork that matches regardless of betterment? I
: dont care how they achieve it I just want the car back
: as it was before.

It's not always possible to match old paintwork, sorry.

: Because surely now rather than betterment, I'm left with
: a car worth less. Why should I be the one to lose out?
: Especially when the accident was blatantly not my fault.

But poor original paintwork is not their fault either, put it
this way, had the paintwork been 'showroom' then the colour would
match, if you restored the rest or your car except for that which
has been repaired the colour would match.
--
Regards, Jerry.


From: Jerry on

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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: "BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com" <bertiebigbollox(a)gmail.com> gurgled
happily,
: sounding much like they were saying:
:
: > However, surely I'm entitled to have my car back with
paintwork that
: > matches regardless of betterment?
:
: <sigh>
:
: YET again - they need to mix the paint to match the car, not
the code.

<sigh>

YET again - If it is possible to do so....