Bodywork repairs following accident - paint match
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From: steve robinson on 3 Jul 2010 19:40 stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: > In message <xn0gw7bbnjcfsi003(a)news.eternal-september.org> > "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote: > > > stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: > > > >> In message <xn0gw6xvq11f2n001(a)news.eternal-september.org> > >> "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> > wrote: > > > > >> > BertieBigBollox(a)gmail.com wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Jul 2, 3:57�pm, Jethro <krazyka...(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> > On 2 July, 15:36, "BertieBigBol...(a)gmail.com" > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > <bertiebigbol...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> >> No. Got the car. Went back yesterday and they admitted it > >> >> looked like the back had been reprayed and that it stood out. > >> >> They're excuse was insurance refused to pay for anything other > >> >> than area damaged. > >> > > >> > Thats a fair argument , the garage is not a charity if the > >> > insurance company say spray the back section only thats all the > >> > garage will do > > > > >> That is correct only the garage should be competent enough to > >> accommodate the spraying over adjacent panels to achieve a > >> satisfactory match, which is exactly how it is done in the > vehicle >> repair business. > > > > >> Stephen. > > > > Its nothing to do with competancy , the op hasnt complained about > > the quality of work just the fact the colour hasnt been blended > > So what your saying is that the garage can do a poor job as long > as the vehicle owner signs it as ok, then that's all right. > > > There could be several reasons for this considering the age of the > > vehicle one possiblity could be the paints being incompatable > > (solvent versus waterbased or two pack catalised ) . > > > Yes there could be a similar scenario here but if the sprayer has > chosen the correct paint type which is reasonable to assume > because the formulae is still readily available there would be no > issue, especially as there is only one colour shade as previously > discussed. > > Stephen. There may only be one colour but its shading will differ between manufacturers even if the same bs ral or pantone codes are used . We have this issue all the time with tints
From: Rob on 4 Jul 2010 02:22 On 03/07/2010 20:04, steve robinson wrote: > Rob wrote: > >>> >> >> OK, I accept what you're saying - I didn't know that's the way it >> worked. I would have hoped the spray shop would have advised they >> were about to make a complete hash of the job because, erm, 'them's >> the rules' and presumably backed up in small print. Cautionary >> tale, therefore. >> >> Rob > > Thats the difference when you paying yourself and seking advice and > the insurance company is paying > I wouldn't undertake to spend time doing a poor job as matter of course - even for money. I suppose this has something to do with a 'growth economy' and I'm lucky enough not to have to behave like this. It must be depressing, day in, day out. Why didn't the spray shop phone the OP, explain what was about to happen, and offer to do it properly for a premium? Rob
From: stephen.hull on 4 Jul 2010 12:46 In message <i0oeie$ks0$5(a)news.eternal-september.org> "Jerry" <mapson.scarts(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote: > ><stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >news:5fc6373151.Steve(a)btinternet.com... >: In message <xn0gw7e5xn649l002(a)news.eternal-september.org> >: "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> >wrote: >: ><snip> >: > >: > >: >No it wouldnt if the original paint had faded over 26 years >: >: Yes but not with this type of paint, it would not significantly >: alter in twenty years to make colour matching problematic. >Assuming a lot of variables, matching the colour is only one of >the issues and the OP has yet to give us a technical appraisal of >the problem, all we have been told is that "Its now blatantly >obvious that the back has been resprayed but not the whole car", >for all we know the rest of the car could look dull (having lost >it's shine) compared to the new... I agree, I was making the assumption that the car is in sound original paint condition, which is another variable. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce
From: stephen.hull on 4 Jul 2010 13:09 In message <xn0gw7xg4w7a3f002(a)news.eternal-september.org> "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote: >stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: > >> In message <xn0gw7bbnjcfsi003(a)news.eternal-september.org> >> "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com wrote: >> > >> >> In message <xn0gw6xvq11f2n001(a)news.eternal-september.org> >> >> "steve robinson" <steve(a)colevalleyinteriors.co.uk> >> > There could be several reasons for this considering the age of the >> > vehicle one possiblity could be the paints being incompatable >> > (solvent versus waterbased or two pack catalised ) . >> > >> Yes there could be a similar scenario here but if the sprayer has >> chosen the correct paint type which is reasonable to assume >> because the formulae is still readily available there would be no >> issue, especially as there is only one colour shade as previously >> discussed. >> >> Stephen. > >There may only be one colour but its shading will differ between >manufacturers even if the same bs ral or pantone codes are used . > >We have this issue all the time with tints I'm sorry you are experiencing problems with tints but the reason BS and RAL colour formulation were created is so that we all have the same colour representation, this is why BS and RAL was set up to achieve because of colour mismatches. The colour representation should exactly match from manufacturer to manufacturer, but it practice is doesn't. Stephen. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce
From: stephen.hull on 4 Jul 2010 12:50
In message <i0oeie$ks0$6(a)news.eternal-september.org> "Jerry" <mapson.scarts(a)btinternet.INVALID> wrote: > ><stephen.hull(a)btinternet.com> wrote in message >news:6d03383151.Steve(a)btinternet.com... > ><snip> >: >: A local insurance appproved paint outlet near me lost their >: insurance approval because of poor work, so it probably won't >: last forever. > >There is poor work and there is doing what the insurance Co. >asked to be done... Indeed, but the sprayer would at least be able to tell if the back end had been resprayed beforhand which could have saved some grief for the OP, another variable. Stephen. -- http://www.stephen.hull.btinternet.co.uk Coach painting tips and techniques + Land Rover colour codes "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble". Henry Royce |