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From: The Medway Handyman on 21 May 2010 18:51 ChelseaTractorMan wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:55:17 +0100, "The Medway Handyman" > <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >>> You often see lots of expensive cars on council estates... >> >> Daily Mail overdose obviously. > > LOL, my experience of council estates is one or two BMWs owned by drug > dealers and a few expensive commuter cars paying for residents parking > spaces to an OAP resident. Shock horror! You live in the 'real world'. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
From: The Medway Handyman on 21 May 2010 19:30 Squashme wrote: > On 21 May, 23:22, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> On 21 May, 16:00, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >>>> Squashme wrote: >>>>> ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> Squashme <squas...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> What would that be, for corner shops, and why can't corner shops >>>>>>> do it now? They have been around for a long time, after all. >>>>>> you cannot carry the variety if you only have a few hundred >>>>>> customers, corner shops are now places you nip out for the stuff >>>>>> you forgot, a paper or a bottle of wine and a lottery ticket. >>>>> How many meals can you eat? How much "variety" do you need? It's >>>>> not necessarily an improved diet. >> >>>> And you know best as to what other should and should not be eating, >>>> eh? >> >>> I probably know better than much of the population, and I'd guess >>> that you do too, unless you believe that people have a human right >>> to choose to be obese. >> >> A variety in diet doesn't necessarily make you obese. >> >> -- > > A variety of fruits probably not. A variety of crisps probably may:- > > " * Flamin' Hot Monster Munch > * Pickled Onion Space Raiders > * Salt & Vinegar Squares > * Beef Monster Munch > * Tesco Own Brand Cheese & Onion > * Bacon Wheat Crunchies > * Skips > * Beef Hula Hoops > * Beef Discos > * Frazzles > * Scampi Fries > * Pickled Onion Monster Munch > * Beef Wotsits > * Tomato Snaps > * Cheese Moments > * Onion Rings > * Walkers Cheese n Onion > * Quavers > * Salt n Shake > * McCoy's Mexican Chilli > * Meanies > * Seabrook Crinckle Cut > * Fish and Chips > * Pickled Onion Meanies > * Salt and Vinegar Chipsticks > * Tangy Cheese Dorito's > * Tangy Toms > * Transformers > * Worcester Sauce French Fries > * Cheetos > * Pom Bears > * Frisps > * Pizza Cheetos > * Morrisons Salt and Vingear Twists > * Scampi and Lemon Nik Naks > * Paprika Walkers Max > * Nice n Spicy Nik Naks > * barbeque pringles > * Cheesy snaps > * sour cream and chive disco's > * Thai sweet chilli sensations > * roysters t-bone steak > * Walkers Sensations Slow Roasted Lamb With Moroccan Spices > * Walkers Cheese and Chives > * creamy passander and chicken poppadoms crisps walkers > * Cool Flavour Doritos > * Mini Cheddars > * Marmite Mini Cheddars > * salt and vinegar french fries > * Walkers sweet chilli sensations > * chilli heatwave doritos > * salsa flavour mini cheddars > * Spare rib nik naks > * xmas special turkey and stuffing > * Walkers Marmite > * Tomato wheat crunchies > * Walkers Sensations Roasted Chicken & Thyme > * pickled onion discos > * Walkers Worcester Sauce Crisps > * Cheesy Wotsits > * cheese & onion puffs > * seabrook ready salted > * cheesy poofs > * paprika pringles > * Hedgehog-Flavoured crisps > * Nettle Flavour Crisps > * Walkers Prawn Cocktail > * Salt and Vinegar McCoy's > * prawn cocktail quavers > * Sea Salt & Vinegar Kettle Chips > * Walkers Smokey Bacon > * sainsburys own onion rings > * Salt & Vinegar Monster Munch > * walkers chilli & lemon crisps > * Walkers Salt & Vinegar > * Tangy Discos > * Walkers Steak & Onion > * Salt and Vinger Twists > * McCoy's Flame Grilled Steak > * Wotsit Waffles > * Wotsits Minis > * Quarterbacks Corn Snacks > * Walkers Ready Salted > * walkers pickled onion > * Boots Own Brand Yogurt & Mint Crisps > * Red Mill Cheese Puffs > * bacon nik naks > * beef puffs > * farmer browns > * sam spudz > * piglets > * Beef space raiders > * Cheese and chive roysters > * Roast Chicken > * Spaghetti Bolognese Monster Munch > * bacon and brown sauce > * spicy meatballs > * Pringles Rice Infusions Salt & Vinegar > * Pringles Rice Infusions Sour Cream & Onion > * Pringles Rice Infusions Cheese & Onion > * Pringles Rice Infusions Sweet BBQ Spare Rib > * Smiths Crisps Tubes > * McCoy's Chicken Madras > * McCoy's Steak and Ale > * KP Outer Spascers Chutney Flavour > * tastees > * roast beef flavour > * Pickled Onion Discos > * BBQ Rib Flavour > * Cheese and Pickle flavour > * Sweetcorn Relish Skips > * bits-a-pizza > * Walkers Chicken Tikka > * Pringles Ploughman's Cheese And Tomato Flavour > * Brown Sauce" > > (With thanks to the CrispList) > > And really, after Smith's with the blue twist of salt, who needs > variety? Mostly an illusion. I prefer potato flavour myself. > > Medway, if you are salivating, well ... I'm not surprised. > > No, I agree, real variety in diet should be a good thing, and not make > you obese. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
From: The Medway Handyman on 21 May 2010 19:32 Squashme wrote: > On 21 May, 19:33, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> On 20 May, 19:35, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>> Squashme wrote: >>>>> On 20 May, 18:28, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- >>>>> blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> JNugent wrote: >>>>>>> Derek C wrote: >> >>>>>>> [snip] >> >>>>>>>> The answer to Labour's hatred of motorists is quite simple. >>>>>>>> Railways, buses and other form of public transport are highly >>>>>>>> unionised and the trade unions are their major source of >>>>>>>> income. Also they still live in a time warp dating back to the >>>>>>>> early part of the twentieth century, when only rich toffs >>>>>>>> drove cars. The proleteriat rode bikes, used buses or >>>>>>>> travelled 3rd class on railways. >> >>>>>>> It's part of the answer, but not all of it. >> >>>>>>> The further answer is that Labour has always been wedded to >>>>>>> quasi-religious views of the world, with pat >>>>>>> faux-rationalisations and prescriptions for every social >>>>>>> phenomenon. >> >>>>>>> You can see the advantage. Once formulated, the "catechism" can >>>>>>> easily be imparted to the ultra-faithful (councillors, senior >>>>>>> officer of councils, etc) and disseminated to the more docile >>>>>>> sections of the population who prefer to let Labour do their >>>>>>> thinking for them. The 'Boxer' effect... >>>>>>>> Many bicycles these days are actually very expensive fashion >>>>>>>> accessories for rich yuppies. The middle and lower classes now >>>>>>>> drive around in cars, because this is the most practical way of >>>>>>>> getting around and doing your shopping, now little local corner >>>>>>>> shops have mostly been closed down in favour of our-of-town >>>>>>>> supermarkets... >> >>>>>>> ...though only because they are an improvement on the corner >>>>>>> shop (something a true believer absolutely *will not* hear). >> >>>>>> Stores like Tesco Express wil be the final nail in the coffin for >>>>>> the corner shop - and quite right too. >> >>>>> Aren't you a "corner shop"? >> >>>> I'm a small independant trader yes, but not in retail. >> >>>> Several large companies have tried to lauch handyman services & >>>> failed. B&Q for one. >> >>>> I'm more efficient at giving the customer what they want. Corner >>>> shops aren't. >> >>> What would that be, for corner shops, and why can't corner shops do >>> it now? They have been around for a long time, after all. >> >> They simply didn't - or couldn't respond to a changing market. Tesco >> et al are incredibly successful because they know what their >> customers want & provide it. >> > > How many corner shops could become a Tesco's? > Big fierce animals are rare. See 'didn't - or couldn't'. Times change. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
From: The Medway Handyman on 21 May 2010 19:35 Squashme wrote: > On 21 May, 23:24, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam- > blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> On 20 May, 20:00, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >>>> messagenews:gifJn.13599$3a4.2626(a)newsfe30.ams2... >> >>>>> I'm more efficient at giving the customer what they want. Corner >>>>> shops aren't. >> >>>> If someone can walk to their corner shop to buy a few items and >>>> carry them >>>> home why would they drive to a supermarket? >> >>> "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself in a corner shop can >>> count himself as a failure." (To mangle a quote attributed to >>> Thatcher). >> >> "A man who, beyond the age of 26, finds himself riding a push bike >> can count himself as a failure." (To mangle a quote attributed to >> Squashme). >> >> -- >> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's >> toy, not a viable form of transport. > > Norman Tebbit: "I grew up in the '30s with an unemployed father. He > didn't riot. He got on his bike and looked for work, and he kept > looking 'til he found it." Indeed - in 1930. Its now 2010. > > Dave - stupid enough to think that a push bike is a kid's toy and to > go on and on and on and on on and on and on and on and on and on and > on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and > on and on repeating it, because it got a laugh once. Nice to know that my sig is striking home. I'll use it again, it's just so true. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
From: JNugent on 21 May 2010 19:39
Squashme wrote: > On 21 May, 20:00, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >> Squashme wrote: >>> On 21 May, 16:14, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >>>> ChelseaTractorMan wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:05:22 +0100, JNugent >>>>> <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >>>>>> Bluewater, rather like its older "twin", Lakeside, doesn't actually sell >>>>>> groceries. >>>>> wrong, I go to the John Lewis food Hall there (Waitrose in all but >>>>> name) >>>> There's a M%S food section as well. >>>> No competition for Asda and Tesco there, eh? >>>>>> For that reason both Lakeside and Bluewater are analagous to an old-fashioned >>>>>> city centre (catering for what geographers call "high-order shopping"), >>>>>> rather than to inner-suburban high streets ("low-order shopping" - especially >>>>>> groceries etc). >>>>> wrong, they are not in centres of population like a city centre, they >>>>> are not at the hub of the PT network, you have to drive there. I've >>>>> tried Bluewater PT, it stops before the cimema complex closes. >>>> No, you are wrong in saying "wrong", because I did not make the claims you >>>> attribute to me. I agree that PT at Lakeside and Bluewater is less than >>>> optimal. Just like it is everywhere else, in fact (with the possible >>>> exception of central London). Did you miss the word "analagous", or just its >>>> meaning? >>>> Those centres were designed for the car-borne customer. They are successful >>>> because (among other things), families in cars are treated abominably by >>>> local authorities. >>> What precisely should the councils do to improve the treatment? Would >>> the victimised motor-families be willing to pay for it? >> Visitors to town centres and other inner-urban (certainly including those >> whoe aim is to spend money there) should be allowed to get in and out of town >> without hassle, for a start. That means no obstructions, no petty >> restrictions, no deliberate delays, no "discouragement" and no general air of >> surliness such as one currently gets (and has had for some years) from those >> whose jobs are actually supposed to be to help, though they interpret that as >> "hinder". >> >> Then there's car-parking. The councils should remember that they need the >> visitors more than the visitors need them. > > Assuming that they do behave thus, why do you think that they do? > Motiveless malignity? Faddiness. That's the charitable interpretation of it. |