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From: Dave Plowman on 21 May 2010 10:26 In article <6ggcv5d56g4fg7upm4t37e7b2ttn6e2bku(a)4ax.com>, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:54:31 +0100, Dave Plowman > <dave(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote: > >There's no real reason they have to be 'out > >> > of town'. > > > >> Not everyone has such a time-free life as you, popping over to > >> supermarket every couple of days for 1 'carry's worth of food? I > >> certainly don't. I like to go once a week or once a fortnight and > >> stock up on the heavy things, then carry it home in the boot of my > >> car. Time saved, which can be spent with my family and friends. > > > >Fine for you. I prefer to eat fresh food. > all very nice if its practical. for most it isn't. Supermarkets do not > need to be "out of town", equally you cannot expect them to be near > enough to everybody to permit daily shopping, its just not realistic. No reason not to pop into one on your way back from work - they're all open late enough for this these days. I'd hate to be without fresh food - and that's the implication of having to drive miles to some out of town shopping centre, once a week or so. -- *The older you get, the better you realize you were. Dave Plowman dave(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12
From: mileburner on 21 May 2010 10:39 "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:vjucv5hpufncv3vectvv6lgmgidq7vfsje(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:57:03 +0100, "mileburner" > <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >>I don't deny that the car can be the most sensible and practical choice, >>but >>that is considerably different to "having" to drive because I "have" to. > > I dont know anybody who thinks like that. It usually manifests itself in the notion "I have to drive to work, as it's the only way I can get there" or "I live in the country and I cannot get around by any other means". What these people seem to overlook is that they could work somewhere else, or live somewhere else.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 21 May 2010 10:46 On Fri, 21 May 2010 15:26:14 +0100, Dave Plowman <dave(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote: >> all very nice if its practical. for most it isn't. Supermarkets do not >> need to be "out of town", equally you cannot expect them to be near >> enough to everybody to permit daily shopping, its just not realistic. > >No reason not to pop into one on your way back from work - they're all >open late enough for this these days. I'd hate to be without fresh food - >and that's the implication of having to drive miles to some out of town >shopping centre, once a week or so. you keep saying "out of town", that was the retail malls, the supermarkets are more local, but not walking distance for most people. If you want to drop into one every night and its convenient, that's up to you. However, most everybody does a weekly or less shop to buy all the bulk stuff. We use markets and the allotment to supplement that, but its just individual choice. Many are not as bothered as you about fresh or not in a position to do so, or like us have other arrangements. -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 21 May 2010 10:49 On Fri, 21 May 2010 15:39:33 +0100, "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >It usually manifests itself in the notion "I have to drive to work, as it's >the only way I can get there" or "I live in the country and I cannot get >around by any other means". What these people seem to overlook is that they >could work somewhere else, or live somewhere else. I see, you think people should forgo where they want to live and job opportunities to not use a car. Are you surprised few do? -- Mike. .. . Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Halmyre on 21 May 2010 10:57
In article <ht65v8$1vj$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, mileburner(a)btinternet.com says... > > "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:vjucv5hpufncv3vectvv6lgmgidq7vfsje(a)4ax.com... > > On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:57:03 +0100, "mileburner" > > <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > > > >>I don't deny that the car can be the most sensible and practical choice, > >>but > >>that is considerably different to "having" to drive because I "have" to. > > > > I dont know anybody who thinks like that. > > It usually manifests itself in the notion "I have to drive to work, as it's > the only way I can get there" or "I live in the country and I cannot get > around by any other means". What these people seem to overlook is that they > could work somewhere else, or live somewhere else. > > Some people don't have that level of choice. Some people's workplace locations might not be practical places to live; e.g. forestry workers. -- Halmyre This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your head clean off. |