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From: Doug on 22 May 2010 10:58 On 22 May, 10:14, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > Doug wrote: > > Guy Cuthbertson <gu...(a)nothing.invalid> wrote: > >> Mr Hammond, who drives a Jaguar, > > Here we have a motorist MP in a motorist dominated parliament in a > > motorist dominated country turning a blind eye to all the harm and > > nuisance caused by motorists and letting them off lightly, as do the > > cops and the courts. > > Not fond of democracy, then? > Certainly not fond of what pretends to be democracy.. -- UK Radical Campaigns. http://www.zing.icom43.net One man's democracy is another man's Aristotlean mob.
From: Doug on 22 May 2010 11:06 On 22 May, 11:36, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > On 22 May, 10:25, Dave Plowman <d...(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > In article <pkbdv511k9rnomutql3nhv0jb9mfkt5...(a)4ax.com>, > > ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > > I think some councils (Westminster) are keen to make as much cash as > > > possible, most councils provide car parks for which they charge. But > > > certainly parking meters do drive people away from local shops to > > > places like Blue water and big supermarkets. Many parking restrictions > > > to stop people on street parking for stations just end up going > > > further and further back till there's nowhere to park. They would say > > > they are fighting congestion. > > > Indeed. Many want to feel justified about spending 10 quid on fuel and > > wasting hours of time to save paying a quid for parking... > > > -- > > *Forget the Joneses, I keep us up with the Simpsons. > > > Dave Plowman d...(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12 > > Doh! My experience of the Greater London area is that it is almost > impossible to legally park anywhere near a small corner shop. Hence > people are driven (no pun intended) to go to the large supermarkets > with big car parks, or petrol stations with a small supermarket > attached where there is a forecourt you can park on. Yellow lines are > painted everywhere else so that local councils can extract fines from > motorists, not to keep the traffic moving. Have you noticed that many > parking restrictions only apply during the normal working hours of > traffic wardens? > Historically our infrastructures were not designed for a mass car addictive society. Hence corner shops used to be used by people mainly on foot who were not as lazy as motorists. The very idea of expecting somewhere provided to leave your car lying around awkwardly in public places is an anathema and a general nuisance to all and sundry. -- World Carfree Network http://www.worldcarfree.net/ Help for your car-addicted friends in the U.K.
From: Brimstone on 22 May 2010 11:29 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:f08dab01-1ea5-4b7a-938e-dcc7e6bdaf36(a)u7g2000vbq.googlegroups.com... > On 22 May, 11:36, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> On 22 May, 10:25, Dave Plowman <d...(a)davesound.co.uk> wrote: >> >> >> >> > In article <pkbdv511k9rnomutql3nhv0jb9mfkt5...(a)4ax.com>, >> > ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > > I think some councils (Westminster) are keen to make as much cash as >> > > possible, most councils provide car parks for which they charge. But >> > > certainly parking meters do drive people away from local shops to >> > > places like Blue water and big supermarkets. Many parking >> > > restrictions >> > > to stop people on street parking for stations just end up going >> > > further and further back till there's nowhere to park. They would say >> > > they are fighting congestion. >> >> > Indeed. Many want to feel justified about spending 10 quid on fuel and >> > wasting hours of time to save paying a quid for parking... >> >> > -- >> > *Forget the Joneses, I keep us up with the Simpsons. >> >> > Dave Plowman d...(a)davesound.co.uk London SW 12 >> >> Doh! My experience of the Greater London area is that it is almost >> impossible to legally park anywhere near a small corner shop. Hence >> people are driven (no pun intended) to go to the large supermarkets >> with big car parks, or petrol stations with a small supermarket >> attached where there is a forecourt you can park on. Yellow lines are >> painted everywhere else so that local councils can extract fines from >> motorists, not to keep the traffic moving. Have you noticed that many >> parking restrictions only apply during the normal working hours of >> traffic wardens? >> > Historically our infrastructures were not designed for a mass car > addictive society. Hence corner shops used to be used by people mainly > on foot who were not as lazy as motorists. What makes you think they would not have used cars if they had been available? > The very idea of expecting > somewhere provided to leave your car lying around awkwardly in public > places is an anathema and a general nuisance to all and sundry. > Doug, contrary to your narrowly held belief, you are not all, although you might well be sundry.
From: Brimstone on 22 May 2010 11:31 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:7daaa4fc-4454-4e43-8afa-59cee0ed7a62(a)p17g2000vbe.googlegroups.com... > On 22 May, 08:40, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> On 22 May, 06:15, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:> On 20 May, 07:00, Guy >> Cuthbertson <gu...(a)nothing.invalid> wrote: >> >> > > Mr Hammond, who drives a Jaguar, >> >> > Which says it all. >> >> > Here we have a motorist MP in a motorist dominated parliament in a >> > motorist dominated country turning a blind eye to all the harm and >> > nuisance caused by motorists and letting them off lightly, as do the >> > cops and the courts. >> >> Not half as lightly as dangerous, red light jumping, footpath riding >> cyclists, who stand a very good chance of getting away with these >> offences altogether, due to their lack of registration plates. >> > But cyclists are, of course, are very much less dangerous than > motorists and that is why they should not be subject to the same laws > as motorists. > It's a good job they're not then isn't it Doug?
From: Brimstone on 22 May 2010 11:32
"Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:8367829d-a4c1-483e-b7cc-a75a78eedda0(a)f14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com... > On 22 May, 10:14, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >> Doug wrote: >> > Guy Cuthbertson <gu...(a)nothing.invalid> wrote: >> >> Mr Hammond, who drives a Jaguar, >> > Here we have a motorist MP in a motorist dominated parliament in a >> > motorist dominated country turning a blind eye to all the harm and >> > nuisance caused by motorists and letting them off lightly, as do the >> > cops and the courts. >> >> Not fond of democracy, then? >> > Certainly not fond of what pretends to be democracy.. > But then no one is fond of your preferred style of government. Even our current system is better that dictatorial rule by someone like Stalin, Hitler, Amin and others. |