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From: NM on 5 Dec 2009 12:30 On 5 Dec, 17:21, Peter Grange <pe...(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 08:56:21 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> > wrote: > > > > >On 5 Dec, 13:57, SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 5 Dec, 12:22, webreader <websiterea...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > >> > The simple truth is that a motorist will pay more into the system that > >> > a cyclist, who is not a motorist, will pay (given the same personal > >> > circumstances) > > >> The important point being that the vast majority of cyclists *are* > >> contributing towards the costs of maintaining the highways, regardless > >> of the method of taxation. > > >> SW > > >Not in proportion to the usage they enjoy. > > Do you perchance ever eat chocolate? If so, do you pay a chocolate > tax? > > -- > > Pete No, can't stand the stuff.
From: dan on 5 Dec 2009 12:36 NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> writes: > On 5 Dec, 14:06, SW <allbrankeepsyougo...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> Round here, £55/year of the average council tax bill is spent on the >> highways. > > And this would be paid regardless of whether the taxpayer was a > cyclist or not, cyclist enjoy the facillities for free thus gaining an > advantage over other taxpayers, which makes cyclists freeloaders. The money that I save from not running a car (£2000? £3000?) I spend on living in a more expensive house (= bigger council tax) and buying more toys and more beer (= more money in govt coffers from VAT and duties). Your "all other things being equal" analysis is utterly facile, because they never are. -dan
From: MasonS on 5 Dec 2009 12:44 On 3 Dec, 23:53, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > d...(a)telent.net wrote: > > "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> writes: > > >> FFS. If you want to drive a car on the road you have to have a tax > >> disc - simple. > > > No. If you want to drive (or keep) a car on the road, that *car* must > > have a tax disc. It is the vehicle keeper's responsibility to make > > sure of this, not the driver's. > > > If it's that simple, stop getting it wrong. > > So how much is a tax disc for a push bike? > > -- > Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk Same as for an electric car? Currently £0 I think.
From: mileburner on 5 Dec 2009 12:46 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:hsYRm.11605$Ym4.1556(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... > mileburner wrote: >> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >> message news:NJTRm.11459$Ym4.1202(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>> mileburner wrote: >> >>>> But I suspect that given his remark and other comments that >>>> cyclists are sponging freeloaders he actually has some difficulty >>>> grasping the fact that some cyclists are also keepers of motor >>>> vehicles and pay a variety of taxes (including VED) just like >>>> everyone else. >>> >>> Which is completely & utterly irrelevant - because you don't pay a >>> 'specific' taxe to cycle. >> >> Just like a driver does not pay a 'specific' taxe to drive [sic]. > > Oh what a clever boy. You spotted a minor spelling error. I'm sure mummy > would be proud of you. I was not actually mocking your spelling, I was mocking your point.
From: mileburner on 5 Dec 2009 12:48
"NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:30d84295-1274-459b-be5d-6971ccf7ab34(a)g25g2000vbl.googlegroups.com... > On 5 Dec, 11:34, "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> "Huge" <H...(a)nowhere.much.invalid> wrote in message >> >> news:7nuum0F3m7nm7U2(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> > Much too long. What you mean is "Cyclists will never accept that they >> > are >> > freeloaders." >> >> Possibly because that statement is incorrect. >> >> Ho Hum... > > Looks correct from where I'm sitting S'funny isn't it? How when you look a bit deeper, things are not always as they first seem. The key is to look a bit deeper. |