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From: Peter Grange on 10 Dec 2009 19:44 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:02:12 +0000, Judith M Smith <judithmsmith(a)live.co.uk> wrote: >On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:06:45 +0000, Peter Grange ><peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>On Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:52:52 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" >><davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: ><snip> > > >>>Even better, HMRC should insist you cyclists pay your way. >> >>Well, why don't you put your stupid proposals to them then insead of >>looking like a prat here. Post your reply, I'm sure all cyclists would >>be interested to hear what they said. > > >I have written with my suggestions and my MP is very interested - they >will be taken up with the DfT: > >All cyclists over 16 who wish to ride on public roads must take and >pass a written test based on the Highway Code and basic cycle >maintenance; passing the test entitles them to a cycle licence and >gives them a cyclist registration number. > >Cyclists over the age of 16 must not ride on public roads unless they >possess a cycle licence. > >Cyclists over the age of 16 must not ride on public roads unless they >possess third party liability insurance. > >Cyclists over the age of 16 must only ride cycles which conform to >some required standards when on public roads > >Cyclists over the age of 16 must not ride on public roads unless they >wear a hi-viz outer garment (or slip on vest) on the back of which is >clearly displayed their cyclist registration number. > >The cycles of habitual cycling law breakers will be confiscated and >crushed. > >(With many thanks to KeithT for the ideas) > And you have every right to do that, but I repeat, why don't you put your stupid proposals to them instead of posting like a prat here. -- Pete - The Tax Paying Driving Licence Owning Cyclist
From: JNugent on 10 Dec 2009 20:06 MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > On 10 Dec, 18:33, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >>> I don't care if it is a cheque or cash, it all comes out of my bank >>> in the long run. If they fiddle their tax returns it's on their >>> conscience, not mine. >> So you always insist on a serialised receipt?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > No - once I agree a price and pay up - that's the end of it as far as > I'm concerned. A serialised receipt is no use... ....to you. But insisting on it is very helpful to HMRC and your fellow taxpayers.. But that's apparently not your concern. > I only worry about bottom line. Indeed. One thought as much. Just like the traders. > Even when I got a bill of �2000 for a car service and MOT > last March it didn't matter if he charged me �89 for a Lambda sensor > or �79. He just says the whole job will be �2000, do I go ahead or > not? If I give him the nod, then the receipt breakdown is academic. I think that's what you call a "red herring". We already have the picture.
From: MasonS on 11 Dec 2009 03:06 On 11 Dec, 01:06, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > > On 10 Dec, 18:33, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > > >>> I don't care if it is a cheque or cash, it all comes out of my bank > >>> in the long run. If they fiddle their tax returns it's on their > >>> conscience, not mine. > >> So you always insist on a serialised receipt?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > No - once I agree a price and pay up - that's the end of it as far as > > I'm concerned. A serialised receipt is no use... > > ...to you. > > But insisting on it is very helpful to HMRC and your fellow taxpayers.. > > But that's apparently not your concern. Don't be so ridiculous. The TRADER is responsible for HIS tax returns, not me. -- Simon Mason
From: JNugent on 11 Dec 2009 03:16 MasonS(a)BP.com wrote: > JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >> Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: >>> JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: >>>>> I don't care if it is a cheque or cash, it all comes out of my bank >>>>> in the long run. If they fiddle their tax returns it's on their >>>>> conscience, not mine. >>>> So you always insist on a serialised receipt?- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> No - once I agree a price and pay up - that's the end of it as far as >>> I'm concerned. A serialised receipt is no use... >> ...to you. >> But insisting on it is very helpful to HMRC and your fellow taxpayers.. >> But that's apparently not your concern. > Don't be so ridiculous. The TRADER is responsible for HIS tax returns, > not me. Does that mean that you (in the sense: "one" or "a customer") cannot possibly profit from tacit collusion in such tax evasion? Unless the answer is "no" (and it can't be), what are you on about?
From: MasonS on 11 Dec 2009 03:31
On 11 Dec, 08:16, JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > > JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >> Mas...(a)BP.com wrote: > >>> JNugent <J...(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote: > >>>>> I don't care if it is a cheque or cash, it all comes out of my bank > >>>>> in the long run. If they fiddle their tax returns it's on their > >>>>> conscience, not mine. > >>>> So you always insist on a serialised receipt?- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> No - once I agree a price and pay up - that's the end of it as far as > >>> I'm concerned. A serialised receipt is no use... > >> ...to you. > >> But insisting on it is very helpful to HMRC and your fellow taxpayers... > >> But that's apparently not your concern. > > Don't be so ridiculous. The TRADER is responsible for HIS tax returns, > > not me. > > Does that mean that you (in the sense: "one" or "a customer") cannot possibly > profit from tacit collusion in such tax evasion? > > Unless the answer is "no" (and it can't be), what are you on about?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I already stated previously and in case you missed it I will state it again. I have *never* in my entire life asked any trader of any description for a discount for cash. They give me an estimate with no mention of cash. When it comes to paying the final bill, some have asked for a cash portion which doesn't matter to me as long as I have paid him for the job. What he does with it after that is no concern of mine and it would be hugely rude of me anyway to suggest that he not fiddle his accounts by not paying it into his bank. All that is my responsiblity is that I pay my taxes, which since I am on PAYE, I do. -- Simon Mason |