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From: Brimstone on 19 Aug 2006 04:20 Tony Raven wrote: > Brimstone wrote on 19/08/2006 08:29 +0100: >>> >>> So you don't believe there is such a thing as an American, Asian or >>> African either? >> >> Careful, you'll upset the Australians. You know how they need to be >> included in everything. >> >> > > ITYM the Oceanians Nope. AIUI, Australia is (in some definitions at least) a part of Oceania but Australia is a continent.
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on 19 Aug 2006 04:31 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:16:32 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:08:44 +0100, "Brimstone" >> <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>> news:5lhce2dfu34qn4ppn7o1frf94sgfl0t2fv(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:50:58 +0100, Tony Raven >>>> <junk(a)raven-family.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Alex Heney wrote on 18/08/2006 21:40 +0100: >>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:58:04 GMT, JAF >>>>>> <anarchSPAMKILLER(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:07:41 +0100, Paul {Hamilton Rooney} >>>>>>> <craig(a)oil.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It meant a fixed thing or place. >>>>>>> Post (stick in the ground) and post (mail) have different >>>>>>> origins. >>>>>> >>>>>> And "undertake" (to take upon oneself), "undertake" (to carry out >>>>>> funerals) and "undertake" (to pass on the "wrong" side) all have >>>>>> different origins. >>>>> >>>>> But only the first two are recognised by the OED. >>>> >>>> True. >>>> >>>> But give it time :-) >>> >>> How long? >>> >> >> I'd guess two or three years. > >Hmmm, I've been hearing it used in the sense of passing another vehicle on >the nearside for as many decades, how come the OED haven't included it yet? > Many decades? I didn't think it was that old. But it's very common now. If we all email them today, maybe they'll put it in the next edition! -- Paul Rooney "Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking) "Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much, especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking) "Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local)
From: Brimstone on 19 Aug 2006 04:36 Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote: > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:16:32 +0100, "Brimstone" > <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:08:44 +0100, "Brimstone" >>> <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>>> news:5lhce2dfu34qn4ppn7o1frf94sgfl0t2fv(a)4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:50:58 +0100, Tony Raven >>>>> <junk(a)raven-family.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Alex Heney wrote on 18/08/2006 21:40 +0100: >>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:58:04 GMT, JAF >>>>>>> <anarchSPAMKILLER(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:07:41 +0100, Paul {Hamilton Rooney} >>>>>>>> <craig(a)oil.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It meant a fixed thing or place. >>>>>>>> Post (stick in the ground) and post (mail) have different >>>>>>>> origins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And "undertake" (to take upon oneself), "undertake" (to carry >>>>>>> out funerals) and "undertake" (to pass on the "wrong" side) all >>>>>>> have different origins. >>>>>> >>>>>> But only the first two are recognised by the OED. >>>>> >>>>> True. >>>>> >>>>> But give it time :-) >>>> >>>> How long? >>>> >>> >>> I'd guess two or three years. >> >> Hmmm, I've been hearing it used in the sense of passing another >> vehicle on the nearside for as many decades, how come the OED >> haven't included it yet? >> > > Many decades? I didn't think it was that old. Probably even older. > But it's very common now. No more so than before. > If we all email them today, maybe they'll put it in the next edition! Since it's an inaccurate usage why bother?
From: Adrian on 19 Aug 2006 04:57 Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : >> > I'm a UK resident not a European resident. There is no >> > such country as Europe. >> Who said there was? There IS a continent called Europe, >> and you reside in a country that's part of it. Therefore, >> you're European. Just as (at random) Ethiopians are also >> Africans. > Wrong, but I'm too tired tonight to pursue that one all over again. Which is wrong? That there isn't a continent called "Europe"? That you don't reside in a country that's part of Europe? That Ethiopians aren't Africans?
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on 19 Aug 2006 04:58
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:36:38 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 09:16:32 +0100, "Brimstone" >> <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote: >>>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 08:08:44 +0100, "Brimstone" >>>> <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:5lhce2dfu34qn4ppn7o1frf94sgfl0t2fv(a)4ax.com... >>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:50:58 +0100, Tony Raven >>>>>> <junk(a)raven-family.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Alex Heney wrote on 18/08/2006 21:40 +0100: >>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:58:04 GMT, JAF >>>>>>>> <anarchSPAMKILLER(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:07:41 +0100, Paul {Hamilton Rooney} >>>>>>>>> <craig(a)oil.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It meant a fixed thing or place. >>>>>>>>> Post (stick in the ground) and post (mail) have different >>>>>>>>> origins. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And "undertake" (to take upon oneself), "undertake" (to carry >>>>>>>> out funerals) and "undertake" (to pass on the "wrong" side) all >>>>>>>> have different origins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But only the first two are recognised by the OED. >>>>>> >>>>>> True. >>>>>> >>>>>> But give it time :-) >>>>> >>>>> How long? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd guess two or three years. >>> >>> Hmmm, I've been hearing it used in the sense of passing another >>> vehicle on the nearside for as many decades, how come the OED >>> haven't included it yet? >>> >> >> Many decades? I didn't think it was that old. > >Probably even older. > >> But it's very common now. > >No more so than before. You hear it on the BBC now. There was a time when those anals wouldn't even split an infinitive. > >> If we all email them today, maybe they'll put it in the next edition! > >Since it's an inaccurate usage why bother? > Usage is usage. Neither accurate nor inaccurate. That's how language works. -- Paul Rooney "Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking) "Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much, especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking) "Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local) |