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From: Brimstone on 5 Mar 2010 13:03 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:c14ff8d8-307b-46b2-ba08-af22bd5529c8(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... > On 5 Mar, 14:49, NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote: >> On 5 Mar, 13:38, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Better still, only buy a car if you have somewhere to put it when it >> > is not in use, instead of cluttering public spaces. >> >> I'd go along with that however I live in the country and except for >> the high summer season I can always find somewhere to leave it. Those >> like yourself, who are unfortunate, for whatever reasons, to live in a >> big city may feel somewhat different. >> > Despite living in a city I have a front garden with a space which I > used to use for parking So you've concreted over an area intended for growing plants? Hardly environmentally friendly is it Doug?
From: JNugent on 5 Mar 2010 13:32 Doug wrote: > What motorists contribute is offset by all the harm they cause and I > don't need them to fund me. Brave words for someone who lives on the labour and productivity of others. > If there was a price I could put on the > inconvenience and danger they cause me it would be considerable. But there isn't, is there?
From: NM on 5 Mar 2010 13:34 On 5 Mar, 18:03, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > news:c14ff8d8-307b-46b2-ba08-af22bd5529c8(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... > > > On 5 Mar, 14:49, NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote: > >> On 5 Mar, 13:38, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > > >> > Better still, only buy a car if you have somewhere to put it when it > >> > is not in use, instead of cluttering public spaces. > > >> I'd go along with that however I live in the country and except for > >> the high summer season I can always find somewhere to leave it. Those > >> like yourself, who are unfortunate, for whatever reasons, to live in a > >> big city may feel somewhat different. > > > Despite living in a city I have a front garden with a space which I > > used to use for parking > > So you've concreted over an area intended for growing plants? Hardly > environmentally friendly is it Doug? The Eco caravan is parked on it.
From: Brimstone on 5 Mar 2010 13:48 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:e149ffcd-facb-4ce3-a430-b3e5db02493e(a)z11g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... > On 5 Mar, 18:03, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> >> news:c14ff8d8-307b-46b2-ba08-af22bd5529c8(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >> >> > On 5 Mar, 14:49, NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote: >> >> On 5 Mar, 13:38, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: >> >> >> > Better still, only buy a car if you have somewhere to put it when it >> >> > is not in use, instead of cluttering public spaces. >> >> >> I'd go along with that however I live in the country and except for >> >> the high summer season I can always find somewhere to leave it. Those >> >> like yourself, who are unfortunate, for whatever reasons, to live in a >> >> big city may feel somewhat different. >> >> > Despite living in a city I have a front garden with a space which I >> > used to use for parking >> >> So you've concreted over an area intended for growing plants? Hardly >> environmentally friendly is it Doug? > > The Eco caravan is parked on it. Oh well, that OK then, isn't it?
From: Tony Dragon on 5 Mar 2010 14:26
Doug wrote: > From the latest 'Street Lifre' Spring 2010 by Living Streets. > > "There are 28 million cars on our streets, and 90% of the > time they will be parked. > As car ownership has increased, so to has the pressure for > car parking spaces, resulting in an increasing number of > vehicles being parked illegally on our pavements. Although > it might not seem like a major problem to many, for > parents with buggies, people using wheelchairs or older > people who need support to walk, pavements blocked by > parked cars can mean there is no way through without > being forced to risk walking in the road. And it is not just > access which causes problems - our pavements aren�t built > to withstand the weight of vehicles � by driving onto them > footpaths get damaged, creating trip hazards that cause > even more problems. > > We want: > � the UK Government to make pavement parking illegal > throughout the UK; > � the Scottish Government to expand dropped kerb > regulations into Scotland; > � all local authorities to take on the enforcement of > parking offences; > � the UK Government to lead a wider national �pavement > education� campaign on all aspects of using our > pavements � including anti-social parking and cycling; > � where police are responsible for enforcement, to take > the issue more seriously and enforce all instances of > pavement parking." > > �Where I live motorists not > only park, but also drive > for some distance along a > pavement by the shops. It�s > only four feet wide at most, > and pedestrians are forced > into the road. Sometimes > it is frightening, and makes > walking locally a trial rather > than a pleasure.� > > http://www.livingstreets.org.uk/ > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns > www.zing.icom43.net > All public road users are equal but some are more equal than others. You forgot to use the *R* word. -- Tony Dragon |