From: Cynic on 2 Jul 2010 06:41 On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 09:19:02 +0000 (UTC), boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>Besides, if I understand the claims made by homeopathy correctly, then >>the multitude of properties would have opposite properties that would >>tend to cancel each other out. >Presumably then the glass the bottles the "remedies" are contained in has >to be specially formulated lest it negate the effectiveness of the snake >oil, sorry , homeopathic water inside? You have quite enough *factual* information to be able to debunk the claims made by the advocates of homeopathy without needing to resort to fallacious arguments and logic. Doing so only weakens your position, it does not strengthen it, because when it is so easy to demolish two or three of your arguments, people will be more inclined to view *all* of them with scepticism. I do not pretend to understand the entirity of the claims made by homeopathy, but to play devil's advocate, if water is capable of having the type of memory claimed, it does not follow (and is not even likely) that such a memory would apply to *every* substance that exists. Just as if I were to make the unlikely claim that I have a piece of magic metal that can exert an invisible pulling force on an iron nail from a distance, that does not imply that it will also exert a similar force on a piece of paper. -- Cynic
From: Brimstone on 2 Jul 2010 06:50 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:895q0gF7q2U1(a)mid.individual.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:895ph3F3uiU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> Brimstone wrote: >>>> >>>> "Norman Wells" <stibbons(a)unseen.ac.am> wrote in message >>>> news:vv6Xn.86515$x15.34714(a)hurricane... >>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> "Norman Wells" <stibbons(a)unseen.ac.am> wrote in message >>>>>> news:6m1Xn.110852$aS3.9251(a)hurricane... >>>>>> >>>>>>> You stick if you like with your view that water can have a memory, >>>>>>> and that fairies may exist. What do I care if it makes you >>>>>>> ridiculous? >>>>>> Someone who tries to deny the existence of something when no one >>>>>> knows one way or the other is the most ridiculous of all. "Closed >>>>>> mind" is the usual term I believe. >>>>> >>>>> Do you think fairies exist then? >>>>> >>>>> Or can you rule the possibility out completely? >>>>> >>>> In the absence of any evidence either way, I'm ruling the possibility >>>> of fairies neither in nor out. >>>> >>>> Do you have any evidence either way? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Er, didn't he just say that he *didn't* have any evidence, either way? >>> >> Where? >> >> > > "In the absence of any evidence either way" > That was my post.
From: bod on 2 Jul 2010 06:53 Brimstone wrote: > > "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:895q0gF7q2U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:895ph3F3uiU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> "Norman Wells" <stibbons(a)unseen.ac.am> wrote in message >>>>> news:vv6Xn.86515$x15.34714(a)hurricane... >>>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>>> "Norman Wells" <stibbons(a)unseen.ac.am> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:6m1Xn.110852$aS3.9251(a)hurricane... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You stick if you like with your view that water can have a memory, >>>>>>>> and that fairies may exist. What do I care if it makes you >>>>>>>> ridiculous? >>>>>>> Someone who tries to deny the existence of something when no one >>>>>>> knows one way or the other is the most ridiculous of all. "Closed >>>>>>> mind" is the usual term I believe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do you think fairies exist then? >>>>>> >>>>>> Or can you rule the possibility out completely? >>>>>> >>>>> In the absence of any evidence either way, I'm ruling the >>>>> possibility of fairies neither in nor out. >>>>> >>>>> Do you have any evidence either way? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Er, didn't he just say that he *didn't* have any evidence, either way? >>>> >>> Where? >>> >>> >> >> "In the absence of any evidence either way" >> > That was my post. > > > My apologies. <crawls back under my stone> Bod
From: Brimstone on 2 Jul 2010 07:07 "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:895upeF3i7U3(a)mid.individual.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> That was my post. >> > My apologies. > <crawls back under my stone> > Are you quite certain it's your stone?
From: bod on 2 Jul 2010 07:14
Brimstone wrote: > > "bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:895upeF3i7U3(a)mid.individual.net... >> Brimstone wrote: > >>> That was my post. >>> >> My apologies. >> <crawls back under my stone> >> > Are you quite certain it's your stone? > > > Irrelevant, wherever I lay my hat........that's my stone. Bod |