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From: fred on 13 Mar 2010 15:29 "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in news:hn5ve5$89v$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > > "fred" <fred(a)bedrock.rock> wrote in message > news:Xns9D35BF5CC40B7fred(a)127.0.0.1... >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in >> news:hn2t1s$43j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: >> >>> >>> "fred" <fred(a)bedrock.rock> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9D34B4D952E36fred(a)127.0.0.1... >>> >>>> All the government has to do is say, "As part of being allowed to >>>> sell >>>> cars here, you are required to provide the source code and circuit >>>> diagrams for all electronics in your cars to DOT upon release of >>>> the >>>> model to the market." It may very well already be true. >>> >>> Let's say that all car manufacturers give all this information to >>> NHTSA, who at NHTSA is going to read and understand it? >>> >> An automotive and/or electronic engineer employed by the government. >> They *do* exist you know - government employees with useful degrees. >> Do you think they rely on uneducated paper pushers any time there's >> a >> plane crash? > > No the same! How many planes crashes a year? 50? They have a dedicated > teams of experts for that., maybe 50 people. Air planes may be > complicated, but they make changes reatively slowly. How many experts > would it take to review all the documents from all the auto > manufacturers? I suppose they could have a team of experts available, > but wouldn't they just request the documents they need at the time of > an investigation? I can't see the value in piling up reams of > documentation that that no one would have time to evaluate. > Look, the problem right now is that *nobody* qualfied on the problem is talking to the press. That could be true for a number of reasons: 1. The constantly generated news by the press making feeble attempts of doing something that - at least outwardly - look like they're doing such. 2. The confidientiality agreements such investigators have. 3. The US has the manufacturere conduct such inquiries entirely on their own - it which case the US Govt' is *way* out of line with Toyota. I mean if they can't be bothered to investigate themselves, they're the last people to make judgements of those who are. The fact is that it's not getting anywere the way it is now. Hell we don't even know if the problem is really bad drivers, a car part or some method of out of warrenty modification people are doing. |