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From: boltar2003 on 9 Aug 2010 06:20 On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:47:28 +0100 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >>> specific road examples) - we are talking specifically about the >>> undertaking of lane hoggers - you jumped in and told us that it is >>> perfectly legal. >> >> The HC and the CPS document make no distinction for 'lane hogging'. > >Apart from the 2 lines that say undertaking is considered 'dangerous >driving' and lane hogging is 'inconsiderate driving'. I wonder why the people who wrote that document consider it dangerous driving. After all its allowed in the USA and various other countries. Have they all got it wrong? I think not. Its probably the same insular island mentality as not routinely arming the police stating that it would lead to an arms race with crims and put officers lives in danger. Well I guess 99.9% of other countries in the world are run by callous buffoons then because we're only one of I believe 3 in the world that doesn't arm their plods. B2003
From: GT on 9 Aug 2010 06:48 <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message news:i3okpk$v5g$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:47:28 +0100 > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >>>> specific road examples) - we are talking specifically about the >>>> undertaking of lane hoggers - you jumped in and told us that it is >>>> perfectly legal. >>> >>> The HC and the CPS document make no distinction for 'lane hogging'. >> >>Apart from the 2 lines that say undertaking is considered 'dangerous >>driving' and lane hogging is 'inconsiderate driving'. > > I wonder why the people who wrote that document consider it dangerous > driving. > After all its allowed in the USA and various other countries. Have they > all > got it wrong? I think not. Its not dangerous over there because they are taught to drive that way and everyone expects it. If it was standard driving over here, then there would be no problem, but it ain't, so it is! (Still do it though!).
From: Ian Dalziel on 9 Aug 2010 07:46 On 9 Aug, 10:47, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "Nick Finnigan" <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:i3m9gh$uet$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > > > > > GT wrote: > >> "Nick Finnigan" <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:i3he1p$6k6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >>> Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:47:34 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: > > >>>>>> Didn't you see Chelsea's post - dwdca. > >>>>> Which does not mention overtaking, undertaking, passing, inside, > >>>>> outside, on the left, on the right, exceptions nor anything remotely > >>>>> connected. > >>>> do you think ignoring the highway code is driving with due care and > >>>> attention? > >>> It can be. e.g. to pass on the left at a suitable speed, where there is > >>> room: > > >> Yes, we already quoted most of those as legitimate examples (without the > > > I was asked a question specifically about the HC, so I answered it. > > No, we were talking about the law. However it has been answered already - > the relevant law and goverment documentation has been quoted and accepted by > all but you. > > >> specific road examples) - we are talking specifically about the > >> undertaking of lane hoggers - you jumped in and told us that it is > >> perfectly legal. > > > The HC and the CPS document make no distinction for 'lane hogging'. > > Apart from the 2 lines that say undertaking is considered 'dangerous > driving' and lane hogging is 'inconsiderate driving'. Read it again. That's not what it says.
From: Ian Dalziel on 9 Aug 2010 07:55 On 9 Aug, 10:45, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "Ian Dalziel" <iandalz...(a)lineone.net> wrote in message > news:uopr56l84gqa1fu322g7iv1eck6gahs0t5(a)4ax.com... > > > You haven't quoted a law, though, have you? > > Not personnally, but you have and so has Chelsea. Anything else you need > help with? No-one has quoted a law which says it is illegal to pass on the nearside. No-one is going to quote a law which says it is illegal to pass on the nearside. This is because there is no law which says it is illegal to pass on the nearside. Is that simple enough for you? Try re-reading the thread. Print it out and use a ruler to move your finger along if that makes it easier.
From: GT on 9 Aug 2010 08:43
"Ian Dalziel" <iandalziel7(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:b0d8703d-2135-42ab-8d23-a9fe35d33678(a)5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com... On 9 Aug, 10:47, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "Nick Finnigan" <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:i3m9gh$uet$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > GT wrote: > >> "Nick Finnigan" <n...(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message > >>news:i3he1p$6k6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >>> Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:47:34 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote: > > >>>>>> Didn't you see Chelsea's post - dwdca. > >>>>> Which does not mention overtaking, undertaking, passing, inside, > >>>>> outside, on the left, on the right, exceptions nor anything remotely > >>>>> connected. > >>>> do you think ignoring the highway code is driving with due care and > >>>> attention? > >>> It can be. e.g. to pass on the left at a suitable speed, where there > >>> is > >>> room: > > >> Yes, we already quoted most of those as legitimate examples (without > >> the > > > I was asked a question specifically about the HC, so I answered it. > > No, we were talking about the law. However it has been answered already - > the relevant law and goverment documentation has been quoted and accepted > by > all but you. > > >> specific road examples) - we are talking specifically about the > >> undertaking of lane hoggers - you jumped in and told us that it is > >> perfectly legal. > > > The HC and the CPS document make no distinction for 'lane hogging'. > > Apart from the 2 lines that say undertaking is considered 'dangerous > driving' and lane hogging is 'inconsiderate driving'. Read it again. That's not what it says. OK Ian... lets read it together... The link was : http://www.cps.gov.uk/news/fact_sheets/dangerous_driving/ The lines in question are: **** Some examples of careless driving are: overtaking on the inside; **** and **** Examples of inconsiderate driving include: unnecessarily staying in an overtaking lane; **** Now which part is confusing you? |