From: Mr X on

<James Martin(a)> wrote in message
> Many people seem to think that if you do not posess all the latest
> useless gadgets you are technologically backward and old fashioned but
> it is nice to see your bank statement when it comes each month and
> see the balance thanks to not spending stupid money on gadgetry that
> you nither need or want .
It must be nice being a miser.
Do you still light your house with candles or have you had gas laid on yet?

From: Mr X on

<James Martin(a)> wrote in message
> Because I occasionally I transport elderly relatives who do not have
> good legs plus a car is much better than a person for carrying goods.
Why not use taxis? Or a horse and cart, which isn't at all modern rubbish!

From: Mr X on

<James Martin(a)> wrote in message
> On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 21:25:20 -0000, Conor <conor(a)> wrote:
>> It is also far safer navigating by one than driving
>>down the road trying to follow the route you'd planned over several
>>pages with the A to Z you're holding in one hand at the same time as
>>steering with the other whilst trying to read street names as well as
>>see where you're going.
> A to Z did you say I have neve had the need to use one in my life.

From: Mr X on

"Cynic" <cynic_999(a)> wrote in message
> In addition, there are few people to ask if you arrive somewhere at 4
> AM. If you get lost at that time (perhaps because the last person you
> asked gave you incorrect directions), you have to drive around
> searching for an all-night garage, which may be miles away - and there
> is no guarantee that they will know where the place you are looking
> for is.
IME garages are the worst at giving directions. It doesn't help by many
night staff at them having only limited English.

From: Cynic on
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:54:13 -0000, Conor <conor(a)> wrote:

>> >And amazingly, single engine aircraft manage to continue on in the event
>> >of an engine failure.

>> Yup, which is why I was talking about flying transatlantic.


I have explained.

>> The fact
>> that you can glide for 20 miles after the donk stops is little comfort
>> if the closest land is 1000 miles away and the water temperature is
>> below zero.

>But you don't fall out of the sky and die.

Yes, in fact you would almost certainly do exactly that. Sure, the
fall would be gentle enough to have a 50/50 chance that the impact
with the water is survivable (landing on the surface of an ocean is of
itself quite likely to kill you). You would however be extremely
unlikely to survive in the water long enough to be rescued. That's if
a rescue mission was even carried out, which is by no means a given
when it would be very expensive and there are only one or two
unimportant lives at stake.

In short, the probability of surviving an engine failure in a single
engine aircraft over the mid-Atlantic is as close to zero as makes no

Only a low percetage of people have survived a ditching close to shore
with rescue less than an hour away.


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