From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Sun, 9 May 2010 19:06:53 +0100, Halmyre <no.spam(a)this.address>
wrote:

>A variation on that is that the car in front is slowing down to turn right, and actually
>stops to let somebody else turn right from the side street.

thus making it easier for them to turn in afterwards.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: John on

"ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX
> <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why inconvenience
>>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need?
>
> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
> "unnecessary" courtesy.
> --
> Mike. .. .
> Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.

Surely not - if it leads to chaos and risk to other road users - you are
missing the point a little.

Personally - I don't like it when someone slows to 'wave me out' as it is my
responsibility to decide when it is safe and some of the people who try and
give way are not seeing the total picture.


From: Bod on
ChelseaTractorMan wrote:
> On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX
> <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why inconvenience
>> themselves and me when there's absolutely no need?
>
> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
> "unnecessary" courtesy.

>
>
I'm all for more courtesy on our roads, but 'unnecessary' stopping
can produce anger. More common sense, coupled with courtesy would help.

Bod
From: Zimmy on

"ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX
> <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Why inconvenience
>>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need?
>
> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
> "unnecessary" courtesy.

No it doesn't. What gives any road user the right to override the highway
code? The give-way lines are positioned there for a reason. Imagine that
every side road had the right of way onto the main road and the main road
users had to stop. There is almost always a bigger queue on the main road.
Given enough side roads the main road would hardly ever move. This actually
happens on a street near me due to such "courtesy", so much so that it is
faster to divert off the main road, onto the side roads and then back to the
main road.

Z

From: John on

"Zimmy" <z(a)y.x> wrote in message
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>
> "ChelseaTractorMan" <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ougfu5l0gudta55bcn67sdogui5np3geq3(a)4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 9 May 2010 10:33:21 -0700 (PDT), FrengaX
>> <hnkjqrh02(a)sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why inconvenience
>>>themselves and me when there's absolutely no need?
>>
>> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
>> "unnecessary" courtesy.
>
> No it doesn't. What gives any road user the right to override the highway
> code? The give-way lines are positioned there for a reason. Imagine that
> every side road had the right of way onto the main road and the main road
> users had to stop. There is almost always a bigger queue on the main road.
> Given enough side roads the main road would hardly ever move. This
> actually happens on a street near me due to such "courtesy", so much so
> that it is faster to divert off the main road, onto the side roads and
> then back to the main road.
>
> Z

Well described. I have a similar road near me. People should learn to go to
the back of the queue and not to use rat runs to get near the front and rely
on someone who wants a little wave letting them in. More consideration
should be given to those following. One person let in - one friendly wave
received and a queue of people held up - perhaps missing the next change of
the traffic lights.

Such behaviour doesn't happen in the queue at the bank or the supermarket.
People go to the back of the queue. They don't position their shopping
trolley near the front and look pleadingly at the person behind.


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