From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 11:01:16 +0100, "Bernard"
<bernard.x.ramsden(a)btinterent.x.com> wrote:

>If the car waiting to turn right out of the side road is positioned
>correctly,

*if*.

>it shouldn't make it any easier to turn right. Unless of course
>by making it easier you really mean, it make it easier to cut the corner
>off.

in the *real world* it often makes it easier, especially with parked
cars around. Turning into my street for instance. If the car coming in
goes first, it will find nowhere to go and cause a gridlock. If the
emerging vehicle is large it also gives you a better view into the
street. The car turning in is also in a better position to see that
its safe to come out.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:48:42 +0100, "John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>> It produces a calm polite atmosphere on the roads, lets have more
>> "unnecessary" courtesy.

>Surely not - if it leads to chaos

but it doesn't.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Man at B&Q on
On May 9, 6:06 pm, "Mr. Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> "John" <Who90nos...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2FBFn.13490$rS7.214(a)newsfe05.ams2...
>
>
>
> >A bloke stopped his car to wave someone out of a filling station - in doing
> >so, he blocked the path of a car that was turning out of the other side of
> >the road to tuck in behind him - which blocked my path travelling in the
> >opposite direction (on a clear road). He had stopped about 30 feet short of
> >the car that he wanted to allow out of the filling station and became
> >abusive when I beckoned for him to pull forward a bit.
>
> > Why don't these good natured drivers use their rear view mirrors before
> > changing the priorities of the road?
>
> > Similar things happen regularly near a busy traffic light controlled
> > junction. Someone near the front of the platoon of cars let though by the
> > traffic lights will decide to stop to let someone out of a side turning
> > (traffic light avoidance rat-run) - leading to cars being caught in the
> > junction when the lights change. Again - a bit of sense and use of the
> > mirror might lead to them deferring their good deed.
>
> I had some woman driving in front of me at about 30mph perform (almost) an
> emergency stop to let someone else out of a side road, not realising that
> several cars behind her had to brake rather sharply.  

If they were keeping a suitable distance, and being observant, there
would be no need for any sharp braking.

MBQ
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 09:50:57 +0100, Bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk>
wrote:

>I'm all for more courtesy on our roads, but 'unnecessary' stopping
> can produce anger.

people who get angry because they are held up for 20 seconds should
have their licences revoked.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Mon, 10 May 2010 11:03:12 +0100, "Bernard"
<bernard.x.ramsden(a)btinterent.x.com> wrote:

> Imagine that
>>> every side road had the right of way onto the main road and the main road
>>> users had to stop.

but they don't and people do not give way to *every* car. They also
tend not to give way to rat runners. In the real world letting cars
out and in to side roads lets the traffic flow. Fighting the traffic
just slows things down overall.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
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