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From: SW on 2 Dec 2009 14:04 On 2 Dec, 18:45, "The Medway Handyman" <davidl...(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > you have to pay it to use the roads. > No you don't - anyone can use the roads, anytime, free of charge. SW
From: The Medway Handyman on 2 Dec 2009 14:04 Phil W Lee wrote: > "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered > Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:36:50 GMT the perfect time to write: > >> Phil W Lee wrote: >>> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> considered >>> Mon, 30 Nov 2009 01:02:52 GMT the perfect time to write: >>> >>>> Peter Grange wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:25:03 +0000, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve >>>>> Firth) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Peter Grange <peter(a)plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's something you could try to test the theory. Stop the >>>>>>>> next pavement cyclist that you see and ask them to ride where >>>>>>>> they belong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Try telling the next motorist parked on the pavement to get his >>>>>>> hulking great car off the pavement and on the street where it >>>>>>> belongs. >>>>>> >>>>>> When I see a driver driving down the pavement at 25mph I shall >>>>>> tell them off. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck with stopping him. >>>> >>>> Wouldn't need to. Cars have registration plates & can be easily >>>> identified if they break the law. Cyclists don't, because they >>>> don't pay to use the roads. They break the law with impunity & get >>>> away with it because they can't be identified. >>> >>> Just like pedestrians you mean? >>> And have you ever tried reporting a driver who is breaking the law? >>> Clearly not, if you believe that being able to give the registration >>> number will have any effect at all. >> >> Then why do you imagine we have number plates? For fun? Idiot. > > No, it's because motons have a track record of being dangerous, to the > extent that it has become necessary to provide some remote prospect of > tracing a vehicle. You've just won the prize for the most stupid argument of the year. > Motorists never have their lives threatened by cyclists or > pedestrians, and even pedestrians are only killed by cyclists about as > often as they are killed by golf balls. Are you suggesting that golf > balls be registered? 'Motorists never have their lives threatened by cyclists'. Is that a fact? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
From: The Medway Handyman on 2 Dec 2009 14:07 mileburner wrote: > "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1ja3r1o.u298q3122wbk6N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... >> mileburner <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>>> Why is it the cyclists who seem to have a complete inability to >>>> correctly apportion blame? >>> >>> Possibly because cyclists tend to see safety as more important than >>> blame. >> >> No, cyclists see whining on about safety as important. However they >> don't have a clue about safety. Otherwise they would not ignore red >> lights, place their safety above that of pedestrians, and cycle down >> the blind sides of large vehicles. > > I can't recall doing any of those things myself. That will be caused by the half melon helmet being too tight. I recall seeing all of those things on a regular basis. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
From: soup on 2 Dec 2009 14:14 The Medway Handyman wrote: > soup wrote: >> Yes use the vehicle(on the road) not use the road. > The difference being? It is for using the vehicle not the road . Yes I know you can use the vehicle without taking it on the road but for 99.9% of cases... > They clog up the roads & break all the rules. Clog up the roads, cyclists? That will be the reason motorists (at the time) say they are waiting, lawfully, in a jam of cars when a cyclist (again at the time) shoots up the inside (left in the UK), illegally, of the queue of cars. Pretty broad brush there Dave I have never (to my knowledge) broke "all the rules" and when I am on a bike I consider myself a cyclist. > Every normal person (which clearly excludes cyclists) knows what road tax is > and that you have to pay it to use the roads. Once again, YOU PAY TO USE THE VEHICLE, NOT FOR THE ROAD. You can say you pay for the roads as often as you like it still is not true.
From: mileburner on 2 Dec 2009 14:15
The Medway Handyman wrote: > mileburner wrote: >> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in >> message news:iDpRm.10863$Ym4.5745(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >>> Phil W Lee wrote: >>> >>>> But don't let the facts confuse you - just get your polluting cage >>>> to the junkyard, where it can be safely recycled into something >>>> more appropriate, and the danger of it's presence in public areas >>>> can be removed. >>> >>> Good idea - I'll run my business from a bike or use the bus. I >>> wonder why I didn't think of that? >> >> I saw a local painter and decorator using an old trades bike the >> other day. Those ones with a small wheel at the front and a big >> basket. He had paint tins and brushes and carried an advert with his >> name and phone number. >> I thought it was quite a good idea. > > But then you are a cyclist. > > Where did he put the ladders? I didn't see any. Perhaps he just does interiors, and externally, bungalows and ground floor flats. |