From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On Fri, 7 May 2010 10:47:45 +0000 (UTC), boltar2003(a)boltar.world
wrote:

> multi-culti beliefs

I think multi culturalism is now discredited.
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 10:45:04 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> yes, all over Europe.
>
>Mmm. It's worked so well in Belgium, Italy, Germany lately...

the problems in Italy and Belgium are not of the electoral system,
Germany is pretty successful, Greece with a majority government isn't.
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 10:50:22 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>I don't think there is any way in which "poor british born people" are
>"disadvantaged" by "large influxes of immigration". I'm happy for you to
>show me one, though...?

competition for council houses is the obvious example.
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From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 10:53:56 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>You seem to be arguing both in favour of and against several of them
>simultaneously.

I hadn't set out an ideal solution at all.
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From: boltar2003 on
On 7 May 2010 10:50:22 GMT
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>I don't think there is any way in which "poor british born people" are
>"disadvantaged" by "large influxes of immigration". I'm happy for you to
>show me one, though...?

How about housing rents having gone up due to the shortage because of the
extra few million people?

How about pay rates of some industries being forced down because some
immigrants can quite happily live on a low wage when sharing a caravan
with 5 others which a man with a family can't live on?

How about the extra strain on social services such as healthcare?

No to mention the insistance of the PC brigade that every muppet who can't
speak english yet expects to live here has to have a translator or translated
documents when dealing with local government and NHS issues - at taxpayers
expense of course.

And lastly how about the general cultural impact of all the immigrants? And
please don't give me the multiculturalism is wonderful line. Thats an opinion,
not a fact.

B2003