From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 11:37:53 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>It's merely a case of asking for that same respect to be
>extended to allow others to do likewise. Is that a problem for you?

its a problem for society and now recognised as such, people need to
become part of our society, not form ghettos. You realize you are
proving the point I made about "racist" labeling which you said was
"bollocks".
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on
On 7 May 2010 11:41:11 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>And as for Berlusconi and the chaos around him...

he would still be screwing the Italians whatever voting system.

>> Germany is pretty successful
>
>Mmm. That'll be why their coalition is so chaotic, only a few months
>after being sellotaped together on a "clear victory".

but still successful

>> Greece with a majority government isn't.

><shrug> So?

so your attempt to link national success to voting system does not
hold water.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: Adrian on
ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>>And as for Berlusconi and the chaos around him...

> he would still be screwing the Italians whatever voting system.

>>> Germany is pretty successful

>>Mmm. That'll be why their coalition is so chaotic, only a few months
>>after being sellotaped together on a "clear victory".

> but still successful

"whatever voting system"

>>> Greece with a majority government isn't.

>><shrug> So?

> so your attempt to link national success to voting system does not hold
> water.

I'm not attempting to do so. Quite the opposite, in fact. I'm actually
pointing out that your claims to link national success to voting system
fail miserably.
From: Adrian on
ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>>It's merely a case of asking for that same respect to be extended to
>>allow others to do likewise. Is that a problem for you?

> its a problem for society

Is it? It isn't for me. It might be for you, but that's your problem, not
"society's". Like I said - nobody but you can define the way you live
your life.

> and now recognised as such

By people with a rather unpleasant agenda.

> people need to become part of our society

Society is people. You join it by living here. No more, no less.

> not form ghettos.

Even "white-brit-only" ones?

> You realize you are proving the point I made about "racist" labeling
> which you said was "bollocks".

Where have I "labelled" anybody or anything? You seem to be the one
trying to do so with "ghettos" and "join society".
From: Man at B&Q on
On May 7, 10:45 am, ChelseaTractorMan <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Fri, 7 May 2010 09:23:29 +0000 (UTC), boltar2...(a)boltar.world
> wrote:
>
> >Just what we need - the sort of secure stable government enjoyed by the likes
> >if Italy.
>
> Coalitions are common in Europe, as in Germany. Greece however has a
> majority government.......
>
> >Of course the Liberal Teapots arn't the only ones who'd love PR. I'm sure the
> >BNP and similar far right or left groups will be jumping with joy if it
> >happens.
>
> The only people really against it are UK conservatives,

Bollocks. Labour have had 13 years to do something about electoral
reform. It's only when their back is against the wall that it becomes
an issue.

MBQ