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From: Clocky on 25 Jul 2010 19:44 PhilD wrote: > "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message > news:4c4c1b18$0$28646$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> PhilD wrote: >>> "atec77" <atec77(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:i2grq6$bt3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> On 25/07/2010 5:26 PM, PhilD wrote: >>>>> "Clocky"<notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4c4ad353$0$28649$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>>>>> F Murtz wrote: >>>>>>> Clocky wrote: >>>>>>>> F Murtz wrote: >>>>>>>>> PHATRS wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 23/07/10 10:48, who where wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7631821/all-day-40km-h-zone-plan-backed/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Apparently the 90 minutes each morning and afternoon aren't >>>>>>>>>>> enough for some. Now it seems there are more parents/carers >>>>>>>>>>> (who *should* be able to look out for themselves near a >>>>>>>>>>> road?) and children (why are they there?) outside those >>>>>>>>>>> hours, seemingly necessitating the all-day speed curfew. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No mention of the impact on the road toll, before 40km zones >>>>>>>>>> were implemented or after the permanent limit is in place. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lots of talk about fines though. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And the council guy says they are concerned about cost to >>>>>>>>>> change the signs. It's all about the money folks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ben >>>>>>>>> There Is a minor reduction in toll at zones but an increase >>>>>>>>> elsewhere as school zones are a completely wrong way to teach >>>>>>>>> road safety to young learning minds >>>>>>>>> They get conditioned about roads at school zones and when they >>>>>>>>> have a real road to contend with, they get run over. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's up to parents to teach them how to cross roads starting >>>>>>>> from as soon as they start to walk. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If kids don't know how to cross a road by the time they go to >>>>>>>> school it's not the system that has failed the child... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> But they don't, so the govt puts these stupid non effective >>>>>>> school zone restrictions on that don't drop the overall child >>>>>>> accident rates, instead of training schoolchildren properly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Parents shold have taught their kids properly before they even >>>>>> make it to >>>>>> school age. >>>>>> >>>>> Spoken like someone who has never had kids. It doesn't matter how >>>>> you try to >>>>> educate them as to road rules when in a moment of madness they >>>>> suddenly dart >>>>> across the road or walk out in front of the bus they just got out >>>>> of for so >>>>> many reasons. It does happen. It happened to my own son. He had no >>>>> reason to >>>>> cross the road from the bus stop he and some others were waiting >>>>> at, but for >>>>> some stupid reason they decided to have races to see who could >>>>> touch the fence across the road. The car just pulled up as it >>>>> touched him and he got >>>>> away with very minor abrasions. He then learnt his lesson but up >>>>> till then >>>>> we thought that we had trained him well. >>>>> >>>>> PhilD >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You missed the point >>>> some ferrels find teaching children things like respect and work >>>> ethic when they have zero themselves >>>> makes it hard for the rest of us >>>> >>> The previous comment was about school zones and teaching kids to not >>> have an accident crossing the road, so where was my comment not on >>> topic? >> >> It's on-topic but I think you missed the point. >> > Then get to the point that I'm apparently missing. > >> Clearly you see the point and benefits of teaching your kids - don't >> you wish all parents did the same? You can see what benefits >> teaching respect and a sense of responsibility from an early age >> brings to society as a whole, right? > There's 2 subjects being discussed here and I was only commenting on > the accident prevention one as I had no problem with the other about > responsibilities. I object to the blanket answer that parents > teaching their kids fixes the problem. Even if all parents taught > their kids you would still have accidents. They learn from so many > different sources, especially from bad sources, that parents have > little control over. It's a bit like some safety signs that we used > to have in the workplace dunnies stuck to mirrors. They stated that > "You are looking at the person responsible for your own safety". I > wanted them removed because they are complete bullshit. You can be as > safe as you like but there's always someone who can cause you to have > an accident. So it should say "You are responsible for everyones safety" ;-)
From: who where on 25 Jul 2010 20:48 On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:58:00 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> wrote: >who where wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:24:19 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn(a)happen.com> >> wrote: >> >>> who where wrote: >>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:07:28 +1000, atec77 <atec77(a)hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> (snip) >>>>> If these kids are a product of modern high schools then bring back >>>>> the cane and other forms of smashing them into shape >>>> >>>> No, they are a product of three things, in chronological order. >>>> >>>> 1. Parents who failed to teach/control/discipline them before they >>>> ever start school. >>>> >>>> 2. A school system where the teachers aren't allowed to say >>>> anything negative to/about the evil monsters or say anything but >>>> praise in their reports. >>>> >>>> 3. A school system where the dunderheads who can't/won't learn >>>> can't be kept down (aka repeat the year) and so - when they fall >>>> off the learning cart - become a drag on the system which should be >>>> able to aim its effort at least as high as the average kid, instead >>>> of having to devote extra time to the knuckle-dragging sector. >>> >>> 3/3 top of the class for you. >> >> Meh! Easy stuff. SWMBO is a primary teacher ... > >Heh, not just a curriculum follower but a real teacher that knows stuff then >presumably ;-) Well, she was a aprent of three before even considering teaching as a career. So that's a yes.
From: Mr.T on 26 Jul 2010 01:15 >The looneys are now running the bin .... Now? Haven't they always? MrT.
From: Kev on 26 Jul 2010 01:42 Toby wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:53:19 +1000, Kev posited in: > >> 1am we were told not to drive around the back streets. Might >> wake someone up > > Nonsense - at 1AM everyone in New Farm is either pissed, drooged or rooting > one another - or all three, come to think of it. > yeah well that may have been true 20 years ago but since the yuppies were conned into spending big on a room in a fucked old building they were all complaining about the sound of city traffic, it a City of all things Kev
From: Albm&ctd on 26 Jul 2010 07:18
In article <6k7h7m5ij807.1565vq7ylazdf$.dlg(a)40tude.net>, me(a)privacy.net says... > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 09:03:14 +1000, Albm&ctd posited in: > > > In article <37dl46tcaoet3v3nnh9f451fd3camcip70(a)4ax.com>, noone(a)home.net says... > >> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:18:07 +1000, "George W Frost" > >> <georgewfrost(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>>"F Murtz" <haggisz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:4c4a5495$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > >>>> Clocky wrote: > >>>>> F Murtz wrote: > >>>>>> PHATRS wrote: > >>>>>>> On 23/07/10 10:48, who where wrote: > >>>>>>>> http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/mp/7631821/all-day-40km-h-zone-plan-backed/ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Apparently the 90 minutes each morning and afternoon aren't enough > >>>>>>>> for some. Now it seems there are more parents/carers (who *should* > >>>>>>>> be able to look out for themselves near a road?) and children (why > >>>>>>>> are they there?) outside those hours, seemingly necessitating the > >>>>>>>> all-day speed curfew. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> No mention of the impact on the road toll, before 40km zones were > >>>>>>> implemented or after the permanent limit is in place. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Lots of talk about fines though. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> And the council guy says they are concerned about cost to change the > >>>>>>> signs. It's all about the money folks. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ben > >>>>>> There Is a minor reduction in toll at zones but an increase elsewhere > >>>>>> as school zones are a completely wrong way to teach road safety to > >>>>>> young learning minds > >>>>>> They get conditioned about roads at school zones and when they have a > >>>>>> real road to contend with, they get run over. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's up to parents to teach them how to cross roads starting from as soon > >>>>> as > >>>>> they start to walk. > >>>>> > >>>>> If kids don't know how to cross a road by the time they go to school it's > >>>>> not the system that has failed the child... > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> But they don't, so the govt puts these stupid non effective school zone > >>>> restrictions on that don't drop the overall child accident rates, instead > >>>> of training schoolchildren properly. > >>> > >>>Whatever happened to the local copper going to the school once a week giving > >>>the kids road use instructions > >> > >> Dunno, but the local copper giving them a firm clout behind the ear > >> the first time they got caught shoplifting is another effective > >> training method that has sadly (long) gone by the wayside. > >> > >> Now, primary school teachers are expected to instil everything from > >> values to social behaviour, and this to a horde who no longer show any > >> respect for their elders or society in general. Parents need to lift > >> their game big time. > >> > > Ashley, the government has taken over the parenting role. > > Just a quick look on the net to find what may be abuse: > > > > "Emotional Abuse occurs when a child's parent or caregiver repeatedly rejects > > the child or uses threats to frighten the child. This may involve name calling, > > put downs or continual coldness from the parent or caregiver, to the extent that > > it significantly damages the child's physical, social, intellectual or emotional > > development." > > > > Is it any wonder that the female role is to simply drop them out and drop them > > off for someone else to take care of? > > > > Al > > Hmm, and just how is one supposed to deal with a thouroughgoing little > arsehole these days, huh? > Sell them at $5 a kilo for medical experiments, brain transplants with monkeys etc? Al -- I don't take sides. It's more fun to insult everyone. http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html |