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From: Steve Firth on 28 Mar 2010 13:40 Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1jg2bg8.lm4g7li1q6pN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > > Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > > > >> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message > >> > >> >> > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are > >> >> > Tiptronic? > >> >> > >> >> Who said they were? I know I didn't. > >> > > >> > You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or similar > >> > that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On other > >> > boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1 > >> > >> How does that prevent you from using the gear you want?. > > > > Oh FFS > > Within parameters that's what all the autos I've driven have allowed, and > that includes the 3 that I have at present. Seems you know less than you > think. I've driven a fair range of autos. I've explained myself very carefully. As I pointed out, some autoboxes and I suspect it is still a majority, do not permit selection of "the gear you want" they only permit selection of "the gear that they permit". Perhaps you can explain how, on a five, six or seven speed autogearbox given a gear selector that permits D-2-1 one can select fourth or thrid gear using the gear selector? <sits back awaiting more bollocks from someone who apparently couldn't get a clue if given a map>
From: Miike G on 28 Mar 2010 13:59 "alan.holmes" <alan.holmes27(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message news:churn.31021$Er2.21440(a)newsfe20.ams2... > > "Miike G" <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote in message > news:813uf5F8iiU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> >> "alan.holmes" <alan.holmes27(a)somewhere.net> wrote in message >> news:ckRqn.96189$E66.34149(a)newsfe22.ams2... >> >>>>> It is this which causes the problem with having the brake lights on >>>>> all the time. >>>> >>>> Problem? Not one I'm aware of. Sure many drivers seem to brake for no >>>> reason, but cars that have brake lights on all the time must have a >>>> fault. Either with the switch or wiring >>> >>> You are not keeping up with the subject, >> >> My reply was to your statement about 'having the brake lights on all the >> time' >> If that is something you've noticed, the only logical explanation is that >> it is due to an electrical or mechanical fault, rather than driver >> incompetence.. >> >> I have said before, that people who >>> drive with their foot on the brake pedal cause the brake lights to come >>> on as they just press the pedal slightly, nothing to do with the switch >>> or the wiring, just laziness really! >> >> Agreed, but how does that explain 'brake lights on all the time'? > > Deep sigh, it is because they keep the brake pedal pressed all the time > they are driving, because they are to stupid to put their left foot on the > floor until it is needed, the fact that the brake pedal is being pressed > puts the brake lights on. > > Is that clear now? No, unless you can explain how someone can drive a car and "keep the brake pedal pressed all the time they are driving" > Or are you not aware of how the things work? You're the one that appears guilty of that. Mike. >> And you still haven't answered my question about left foot braking. >> Mike..
From: Miike G on 28 Mar 2010 15:49 "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message news:1jg2ue9.cw84okapsbpiN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... > Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > >> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:1jg2bg8.lm4g7li1q6pN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk... >> > Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: >> > >> >> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> >> >> >> > How many times do I have to repeat that not all automatics are >> >> >> > Tiptronic? >> >> >> >> >> >> Who said they were? I know I didn't. >> >> > >> >> > You advised changing using the gear selector. On a Tiptronic or >> >> > similar >> >> > that can be done and one can end up with the gear one wants. On >> >> > other >> >> > boxes one has Drive/2/1 or sometimes D/3/2/1 >> >> >> >> How does that prevent you from using the gear you want?. >> > >> > Oh FFS >> >> Within parameters that's what all the autos I've driven have allowed, and >> that includes the 3 that I have at present. Seems you know less than you >> think. > > I've driven a fair range of autos. I've explained myself very > carefully. As I pointed out, some autoboxes and I suspect it is still a > majority, do not permit selection of "the gear you want" they only > permit selection of "the gear that they permit" I'm well aware of that, which is why I wrote 'within parameters'. You're right. AFAIK auto g/boxes wont allow you to engage 'the gear you want' if that gear would cause the engine to over rev, or stall. That means that in my conventional 5 speed auto, shifting manually, I can redline it in any gear, or from a higher gear change down to any gear as long as that gear is within the rev limits of the engine. > Perhaps you can explain how, on a five, six or seven speed autogearbox > given a gear selector that permits D-2-1 one can select fourth or thrid > gear using the gear selector? I'de be surprised if there are any 5 or 7 speed autos that only permit D-2-1 gear selection. The 5 speed auto on my other car (a '96 reg) permits D-4-3-2. > <sits back awaiting more bollocks from someone who apparently couldn't > get a clue if given a map. Why the insults? Insults are usually the final resource of those who feel they are losing the argument. No wonder you have such a poor reputation. Mike.
From: Steve Firth on 29 Mar 2010 02:31 Miike G <miktoolman(a)miktoolman.plus.net> wrote: > > I've pointed out the boneheaded flaw in your argument over and over > > again. And you keep repeating the same boneheaded argument. > > An argument based on fact and personal experience. Unlike yours which > appears to be based on supposition only. No you dope, I've specifically spoken about my experience of driving automatics on road and track. You've even admitted that I'm right and then go on to repeat your waffle that a driver can select any gear he wnats even whent he gearbox doesn't permit that selection to be made. You remain clueless, insisting that selection using the gear lever in an automatic can be as fast as the change induced using left foot braking and you (apparently) can't see any problem with allowing the slushmatic to decide to change gear when it likes through a bend. > You're just wriggling. You haven't told me yet why I can't select gears in > my conventional 5 speed auto almost as well as I can in the one with the 5 > speed steptronic. That's a plain lie, and you are trying to make out that it's what affects *you* that's at issue here, It's not.
From: Albert T Cone on 29 Mar 2010 03:47
alan.holmes wrote: > "Albert T Cone" <a.k.kirby(a)durham.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:hoiikg$obu$1(a)heffalump.dur.ac.uk... >> Bod wrote: >>> To me, using one's left foot for braking in an auto, is frankly absurd >>> and unnatural. Especially if one has spent some years previously driving >>> a manual. >> I left-foot brake quite often, and I drive manuals... > > How do use a left foot on the brake on a manual, and if you do how do you > declutch? When you want to modulate the throttle and the brake to adjust the attitude of the car through corners, it is useful to use the left foot for braking. I don't left foot brake whilst operating the clutch - I heel and toe if required. |