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From: Doug on 8 Apr 2010 02:24 On 7 Apr, 21:03, Chris Bartram <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: > On 07/04/2010 18:01, Doug wrote: > > > I thought I had explained the connection with Toyotas, its all down to > > the number iof deaths caused by various modes of transport. Obviously > > unsafe cars which are allowed to continue using our roads does present > > a serious problem. > > Has the case of faulty Toyotas been proved to cause deaths, or were the > drivers actually at fault? > As it is not being investigated here in the UK we shall probably never know. So for now we must take the USA as a guide where investigations have taken place. This, of course raises that thorny question, "How many deaths should it take for something to be done about it?" I happen to think that just one is enough but some motorists here seem to think that it should be a lot more. Anyway, in the USA the numbers seem to be currently lying somewhere between 50 and 100, a damn sight more than deaths from cyclists or mobility scooters you can be sure, and that is just Toyota faults not other faulty brands as well. So I say again, why are these faulty and dangerous cars not taken off our roads until the faults corrected, instead of keep banging on about relatively harmless mobility scooters and bicycles? -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill.
From: Adrian on 8 Apr 2010 02:39 Tony Dragon <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>> what do you think should be done about this threat to life and limb >>>>> from mobility scooters? >>>> Ban them from pavements: >>> How would the disabled do their shopping? >> Oooh! I know this one! >> >> They'd cycle. Obviously. > Round the supermarket. Absolutely. Don't be frivolously hyper-discriminatory.
From: Chris Bartram on 8 Apr 2010 03:31 On 08/04/2010 07:24, Doug wrote: > So I say again, why are these faulty and dangerous cars not taken off > our roads until the faults corrected, instead of keep banging on about > relatively harmless mobility scooters and bicycles? And I ask again: has it been proved that the cars have caused any accidents or deaths, or is it the drivers? If the connection is proved and the cars are dangerous, then fair enough, take them off the road until it's fixed. I realise there's no chance of any sense, but I'll ask anyway.
From: Chris Bartram on 8 Apr 2010 03:35 On 07/04/2010 21:08, Chris Bartram wrote: > On 07/04/2010 14:27, John Veldman wrote: > That's why I can't understand the Motability Scheme. They send >> people out in cars knowing that by the very nature of their disabilities >> that >> qualifies them to have one - they would not be able to control it to the >> required standard. > > Is that a fact, or your opinion? A car with suitable adaptions can be > controlled well by someone with considerable disabilities. Provided the > scheme is managed correctly then I don't see the problem. > > A person with no left leg would probably qualify for motability due to > their inability to walk unaided for a distance, but could drive an > automatic car as well as someone without that disability... > Oh. It's him again, isn't it? "John Veldman".
From: Doug on 8 Apr 2010 04:12
On 8 Apr, 08:31, Chris Bartram <n...(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: > On 08/04/2010 07:24, Doug wrote: > > > So I say again, why are these faulty and dangerous cars not taken off > > our roads until the faults corrected, instead of keep banging on about > > relatively harmless mobility scooters and bicycles? > > And I ask again: has it been proved that the cars have caused any > accidents or deaths, or is it the drivers? > > If the connection is proved and the cars are dangerous, then fair > enough, take them off the road until it's fixed. > > I realise there's no chance of any sense, but I'll ask anyway. > Have you ever heard of 'Google searches'? Try it sometime it might help. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |