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From: Mrcheerful on 10 Mar 2010 08:41 Nick Finnigan wrote: > Mrcheerful wrote: >> Big Les Wade wrote: >>> Mrcheerful <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> posted >>>> licencing enables the vehicle and thence (in theory) the driver to >>>> be identified, the natural fear of apprehension will improve the >>>> quality of driving/riding. >>> Isn't it the number plate that does that? >> >> yes, I believe they are also known as licence plates > > No, they are registration plates, paid for once per vehicle. > Vehicle licences are an annual tax. dvla also call them licence plates, as do thousands of suppliers that advertise them for sale. it is identifying the vehicle that is important, not collecting tax on it.
From: Peter Grange on 10 Mar 2010 11:03 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:41:22 GMT, "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >Nick Finnigan wrote: >> Mrcheerful wrote: >>> Big Les Wade wrote: >>>> Mrcheerful <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> posted >>>>> licencing enables the vehicle and thence (in theory) the driver to >>>>> be identified, the natural fear of apprehension will improve the >>>>> quality of driving/riding. >>>> Isn't it the number plate that does that? >>> >>> yes, I believe they are also known as licence plates >> >> No, they are registration plates, paid for once per vehicle. >> Vehicle licences are an annual tax. > >dvla also call them licence plates, as do thousands of suppliers that >advertise them for sale. it is identifying the vehicle that is important, >not collecting tax on it. I'm sure Mr Darling doesn't see it that way. That's why he employs people to maintain a database, indexed by registration mark, of vehicles which have a current tax disc, then employs chaps to sit by the side of the road to check the database is accurate.
From: Nick Finnigan on 10 Mar 2010 12:43 Mrcheerful wrote: > Nick Finnigan wrote: >> Mrcheerful wrote: >>> Big Les Wade wrote: >>>> Mrcheerful <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> posted >>>>> licencing enables the vehicle and thence (in theory) the driver to >>>>> be identified, the natural fear of apprehension will improve the >>>>> quality of driving/riding. >>>> Isn't it the number plate that does that? >>> yes, I believe they are also known as licence plates >> No, they are registration plates, paid for once per vehicle. >> Vehicle licences are an annual tax. > > dvla also call them licence plates, Nope. registration or numbers. as do thousands of suppliers that > advertise them for sale. it is identifying the vehicle that is important, > not collecting tax on it. And so it is registration that is important, not licensing, nor payment.
From: Shaun on 10 Mar 2010 13:36 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:50:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >Shaun wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie >> <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >>> >>> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >>> Commissioners believe. >>> >>> See >>> >>> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >>> >>> Marie >> >> Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being driven >> badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of the >> number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new one to >> arrive in the post. > ><WRIGGLE ALERT> > >That old chestnut again. The regulation of motorists is not 100% perfect, >so there is no point using it for cyclists. The system works for the vast >majority of motorists and would work for the vast majority of cyclists. > It is possible to have an entire bureaucracy dedicated to tracking the ownership of bicycle frames. Just as it is also possbile to track the ownership of underpants, paper clips, or teapots. But whats the point ?
From: The Medway Handyman on 10 Mar 2010 13:41
Shaun wrote: > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:50:11 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" > <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > >> Shaun wrote: >>> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:22:35 -0800 (PST), Marie >>> <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Looks like the IOM might have the right idea. >>>> >>>> ALL bicycles ridden by those over 16 should be licenced, Castletown >>>> Commissioners believe. >>>> >>>> See >>>> >>>> http://www.iomtoday.co.im/news/Call-for-bicycles-to-be.6132083.jp >>>> >>>> Marie >>> >>> Having a tax disc almost certainly stops motor vehicles being >>> driven badly. They save hundreds of life a year. I've lost count of >>> the number of drivers who act like maniacs while waiting for a new >>> one to arrive in the post. >> >> <WRIGGLE ALERT> >> >> That old chestnut again. The regulation of motorists is not 100% >> perfect, so there is no point using it for cyclists. The system >> works for the vast majority of motorists and would work for the vast >> majority of cyclists. >> > It is possible to have an entire bureaucracy dedicated to tracking > the ownership of bicycle frames. Just as it is also possbile to track > the ownership of underpants, paper clips, or teapots. But whats the > point ? Because a push bike is a vehicle. Because cyclists frequently break traffic laws and can't be traced, because we could ensure cyclists were insured, because we could ensure they had passed a test of competence & had roadworthy cycles. And tax could be collected to pay for all the 'rights' they expect, but don't pay for. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit. |