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From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 12:36 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:HbOdnXmnApOLE3XZnZ2dnUVZ8qOdnZ2d(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:WdudnVWCmrC9EHXZRVnygQ(a)bt.com >>>> Ivor Jones wrote: >>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:mLidnRR40c8GFnXZnZ2dnUVZ8qOdnZ2d(a)bt.com >>>>>> Ivor Jones wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [snip] >>>>> >>>>>>> If you had the slightest streak of decency in >>>>>>> you, you would respect my wishes, whether you >>>>>>> agree with them or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wishes don't enter into it. >>>>> >>>>> That just goes to show what an unspeakable apology >>>>> for a person you are. Respecting others wishes is >>>>> paramount to anyone who considers themselves to be >>>>> decent. >>>> >>>> You have expressed a dislike of strong language. Have >>>> I used any to you? >>> >>> Irrelevant. You have repeatedly called me what I have >>> asked you repeatedly not to. >> >> It's totally relevant since it gives the lie to your >> previous assertion. Describing someone as they are is not >> an insult. > > It is if I have told you I consider it so. Try telling us why you consider it so and we might begin to understand.
From: Ivor Jones on 20 Aug 2006 12:36 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:xbudndcMzIIKE3XZRVnyrQ(a)bt.com > Ivor Jones wrote: > > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:neKdnfSLJad-FnXZRVnyrw(a)bt.com > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > What insult is being levelled at you? > > > > > > > > You know perfectly well. You are calling me a > > > > European and I have asked you not to. It doesn't > > > > matter if you don't understand why I consider it an > > > > insult, merely that you know I do. > > > > > > So tell us why you consider it an insult. > > > > Why does someone from Pakistan consider being called a > > "Paki" an insult..? > > They don't, mmany use it to describe themsleves and/or > their businesses. Hmm. I work with several and none of them consider it acceptable. > > I don't know, but they do and I would never dream of > > insulting someone from that country in such a way. > > Not using a perfectly normal term is your choice. Do you > feel insulted when someone calls you a "Brit"? That's not the question under discussion. The current question is why are you so unspeakably rude as to continually go against someone's express wishes when it is of no consequence to you but is everything to the other person..? Ivor
From: Brimstone on 20 Aug 2006 12:37 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Rob Morley" <nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.1f529e1a184ebd7398a5a3(a)news.individual.net >> In article <4krgp8FddfvkU1(a)individual.net> >> Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > [snip] > >>> You don't have to understand. Besides, if you don't by >>> now you never will. A decent human being would respect >>> my wishes regardless, considering it would have no >>> adverse reaction to them. >>> >> Unless they find untruth and denial offensive - many do. > > Tough. I am not a European. That is not untruth. If you think it is, > then you are the one in denial. Saying that you are not European is both an untruth and a denial of the truth. Do you habitually tell lies?
From: mattic on 20 Aug 2006 12:38 "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message news:4krepmFdg4nmU1(a)individual.net... > "Richard Brookman" > <THErichard.brookmanOBVIOUS(a)btinternet.com> wrote in > message news:4kqv2oFd7h8iU1(a)individual.net > > [snip] > >> OK, Ivor - in one sentence, how would you define the word >> "European"? That it is a word, and that it has a >> meaning, there is no doubt. Your understanding of what >> it means might help to clarify things somewhat. > > It means relating to the continent known as Europe. I do not relate to the > continent known as Europe, therefore I cannot be a European. Hehehehe! Roll on pension day and he gets out of the house for a few hours. I have now come to the conclusion that his real name is not Ivor, but Alf Garnett. I'd cue up a "silly moo" joke, but, given the current situation with the milk lake I fear 'twould push him over the edge. Poor bloke, he simply does not understand, or "relate". Unfortunately, this makes no difference. He's as European as Bratwurst.
From: Richard Brookman on 20 Aug 2006 12:38
Brimstone wrote: || Your ethnic origin is at the crux of this conversation and is || something that everyone can see when meeting you face to face. Please don't give him another category to start denying things. European is not a race nor an ethnic group, it describes a geographical area. His ethnic origin (assuming he is white Essex boy with Welsh ancestry, although I stand to be corrected on that) is Caucasian. He's still a European, geographically speaking. -- Rich ============================== Take out the obvious to email me. |