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From: Conor on 19 Dec 2009 09:59 In article <14733297-7889-40e5-a79d- 9e253e9c136c(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, MasonS(a)BP.com says... > No need. They have to take a written and practical test that cyclists > don't. > Apparently that's the argument drivers use to prove that they are all > law abiding and perfect drivers after the L plates and HC have been > binned. > Ho hum. Do you drive? Do you use the bus or take a taxi? -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: MasonS on 19 Dec 2009 10:06 On 19 Dec, 14:59, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > In article <14733297-7889-40e5-a79d- > 9e253e9c1...(a)j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > > > No need. They have to take a written and practical test that cyclists > > don't. > > Apparently that's the argument drivers use to prove that they are all > > law abiding and perfect drivers after the L plates and HC have been > > binned. > > Ho hum. > > Do you drive? Do you use the bus or take a taxi? > > -- > Conorwww.notebooks-r-us.co.uk > > I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. I passed my motorbike test in 1977 and car test in 1980. I have driven for nearly 30 years then. Don't use buses or taxis - no need. Currently driving an 07 Alfa 2.2 JTS. -- Simon Masom
From: Conor on 19 Dec 2009 12:18 In article <f0981e5b-8c27-4d4e-bbb2-06e409d43ab9 @g7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, MasonS(a)BP.com says... > I passed my motorbike test in 1977 and car test in 1980. > I have driven for nearly 30 years then. Don't use buses or taxis - no > need. > Currently driving an 07 Alfa 2.2 JTS. So you are, in fact, a hypocrite. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally.
From: MasonS on 19 Dec 2009 12:31 On 19 Dec, 17:18, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > In article <f0981e5b-8c27-4d4e-bbb2-06e409d43ab9 > @g7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... > > > I passed my motorbike test in 1977 and car test in 1980. > > I have driven for nearly 30 years then. Don't use buses or taxis - no > > need. > > Currently driving an 07 Alfa 2.2 JTS. > > So you are, in fact, a hypocrite. > > -- > Conorwww.notebooks-r-us.co.uk > > I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. Eh? How do come to that conclusion? I'd like to think of myself as "paying for the roads" as you put it, but not damaging them as I cycle 6000 miles a year instead. In fact, this year I paid "road tax" in Austria, Hungary, Romania, Moldova, Slovakia and tolls in Poland, so paid for the upkeep of European roads as well as my own. -- Simon Mason
From: Doug on 20 Dec 2009 05:25
On 19 Dec, 14:27, webreader <websiterea...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > On Dec 19, 12:40 pm, Simon Dean <sjd...(a)home.cubeone.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > Doug wrote: > > > On 14 Dec, 17:03, Silk <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > >> On 14/12/2009 08:02, Doug wrote: > > > >>> The EU is threatening to take the UK to court and be fined for its air > > >>> pollution but this only applies to PM10s, which are mainly emitted by > > >>> buses and lorries. Meanwhile motorists are completely free to emit > > >>> several other harmful pollutants, some of which are life threatening, > > >>> and get away with it. > > >> There's not much we are allowed to get away with these days, so this is > > >> a good thing. FWIW, my car is one of the lowest emitting cars you can > > >> buy. It probably emits less CO2 than your gob. > > > > That's what they all say, "My car is greener than most." LOL! It helps > > > a flagging conscience I suppose. > > > Ok, how do we get people out of their cars? Bearing in mind Public > > Transport is useless and quite a lot of people need to use their cars > > actively in their work. If we focus on people getting to work first, I > > presume the first thing is getting people living near to where they work. > > > How do you propose we do that? > > > I suppose the next thing then, is ensuring the houses in the local area > > are affordable in terms of the wages on offer for the local area. > > > How do we achieve that? > > > Perhaps reduction in economic migration might help that, and the big > > thing that would really help is cut back on availability of transport. > > But how do you manage the transition? > > Doug has promised in the past to answer many of your questions, all > you need to do is request that he posts a copy of 'Vince's Report' > > > > > > I know why, pragmatism, the economy and above all votes. Because > > > motorists are in a majority they are allowed to get away with it, > > > Get away with what exactly? If a drunk cyclist goes through a red light > > and puts themselves in danger and gets run over and killed, you want us > > to blame the motorist. > > > If a motorist goes through a red light and kills a cyclist, you want us > > to blame the motorist. > > > And in both circumstances, you class the victim as being the cyclist, > > regardless of whether the victim endangered their own life or not. > > Do not forget that in DougWorld (tm) the cyclist is always the victim > & is never at fault. > Because of vulnerability to death or serious injury from uninjured drivers. > > The motorist is allways at fault because he is a motorist. > No because he is much more dangerous. > > How exactly he equates this with 'acyclist who drives is not a propper > cyclist' has not yet been answered. > Yes it has. It is explained by the motorist's mindset, which is, "I want the freedom to travel from A to B as fast as possible without any impediments". Of course, cyclists are impediments and are treated as such and motorists kill cyclists but not vice versa. It is highly unlikely therefore that someone who combines motoring and cycling is well disposed towards cyclists. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net All public road users are equal but some are more equal than others. |