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From: MasonS on 29 Dec 2009 11:50 On 29 Dec, 16:12, "Mike Sales" <mike.sa...(a)mypostoffice.co.uk> wrote: > Another study, from the Centre for Hydrology and Ecology, said that > pollution in central London increases mortality due to heart and lung > disease by 2.8% compared with Inverness, Britain's least polluted city. > (Living with a smoker increases mortality by 1.7%.) > > Mike Sales Apparently, when I pointed out that the taxes that motorists pay do not in any way pay for the *true costs* of their damage to society, which included health costs as you have shown, it was denounced as "eco clap trap". It seems to them that *any* costs other than pure road building and repair costs comes for free. The CBI's estimate of £20 billion costs to society from congestion alone was similarly dismissed. -- Simon Mason
From: The Medway Handyman on 29 Dec 2009 12:45 Doug wrote: > On 28 Dec, 12:57, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >> In article <d78daf6a-496f-43b9-a1a0- >> c6aca0299...(a)m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... >> >>> Addition. >> >>> I see they are actually called 'vertical cities' >> >>> Here are some examples: >> >>> http://www.greenmuze.com/build/design/829-the-vertical-city-in-shenzh... >> >>> http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/09/15/dubai-vertical-city-24-km-15... >> >>> http://www.stylepark.com/en/architecture/fusionopolis-a-vertical-city... >> >>> Obviously they would be built to a suitable size to cater for a >>> particular population and put an end to suburban and rural sprawl. >> >> I wonder how the residents get their food and the goods they buy.... >> > Shouldn't be too difficult for you to work it out. Think lifts instead > of cars, with trains bring the goods to the base of the city. Cycles > or electric buggies could be used for horizontal travel at each level. Did you read a lot of Dan Dare comics as a child? -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: The Medway Handyman on 29 Dec 2009 12:47 Conor wrote: > In article <b462ef2d-e0ab-4b2b-80a7-66d73c5ff245 > @j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... >> >> On 28 Dec, 14:15, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >>> In article <cda4c07c-3bff-4254-a6fd-76640e37e458 >>> @e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... >>> >>>> Another story from a long time ago, this time 16 months old. Since >>>> then cars have killed about 4000 people. >>>> Try and keep things into perspective. >>> >>> Since then cigarettes have killed around 150,000 people. >>> Try to keep things in perspective. >>> >> This is about people killing other people, not people killing >> themselves. > > OK, PASSIVE SMOKING kills 11,000 people per year, Care to name one? -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: The Medway Handyman on 29 Dec 2009 12:50 Mike Sales wrote: <SNIP> (Living with a smoker increases mortality by 1.7%.) > Depends entirely on which research you read. The majority of studies show the opposite. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: Bod on 29 Dec 2009 12:50
The Medway Handyman wrote: > Conor wrote: >> In article <b462ef2d-e0ab-4b2b-80a7-66d73c5ff245 >> @j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Doug says... >>> On 28 Dec, 14:15, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >>>> In article <cda4c07c-3bff-4254-a6fd-76640e37e458 >>>> @e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Mas...(a)BP.com says... >>>> >>>>> Another story from a long time ago, this time 16 months old. Since >>>>> then cars have killed about 4000 people. >>>>> Try and keep things into perspective. >>>> Since then cigarettes have killed around 150,000 people. >>>> Try to keep things in perspective. >>>> >>> This is about people killing other people, not people killing >>> themselves. >> OK, PASSIVE SMOKING kills 11,000 people per year, > > Care to name one? > > Well, Roy Castle claimed his cancer was from passive smoking, but I personally think that's a load of tosh. Bod |