From: boltar2003 on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:36:32 +0100
"David" <none(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote:
><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>news:hopt8k$65t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>>Would I be correct in inferring there was an advanced stop line?
>>
>> There was
>
>Conveniently failed to mention that did we?

Its of no consequence. An advanced stop line is just that , its not a "block
the traffic once the lights have gone green" line.

B2003

From: boltar2003 on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:36:45 +0100
damduck-egg(a)yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>You would have loved the situation I came across yesterday, Half dozen
>vehicles doing about 10 mph up a gentle rise. They were stuck behind
>one of those underpowered Horse boxes who in turn was unable overtake
>a gaggle of cyclists . Give them their due they eventually pulled over
>and let My Little Pony and Chauffeur pass.

Let me guess , the horse box then proceeded to the dizzying heights of 25mph
before running out of puff? :)

B2003

From: mileburner on
Derek C wrote:
> Advance stop lines for cyclists are a good idea, because they don't
> have to sit in a driver's possible blind spot, but they shouldn't be
> an excuse for hogging the middle of a traffic lane once things get
> moving.

As a cyclist, the only advantage of ASLs is that there is a reserved place
for you at the front of the queue :-)

I do however prefer to be behind a car or two from the front, as there
always seems to be a certain amount of driver anxiety if you do not go the
millisecond the light turns green and then get out of the way. Being a few
cars behind also means that you can often keep up with the traffic speed.


From: Happi Monday on
On 29/03/2010 10:44, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:35:17 +0200
> "GeoffC"<me(a)home.invalid.com> wrote:
>> boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
>>> I was sitting at some lights on the A22 (not exactly a minor road)
>>> when a couple on a Tandem come past and stop. Not to the side, oh no.
>>> They stop right bang in front of me. Unsurprisingly when the lights
>>> go green me and
>>> all the traffic behind are now slooowly accelerating to a heady speed
>>> of 15mph and its only when I hammer the horn that these pair of
>>> tossers move over and I look in the mirror and the bloke at the front
>>> is laughing. I was sorely tempted to slam on the brakes and see how
>>> funny he thought it was then.
>>>
>>
>> So how do you know what he was laughing at?
>
> Well since he was looking at me its a fair guess what it was.
>
>> Do you often have a tendency towards road-rage?
>
> When people deliberately obstruct me for no good reason when I'm already
> late picking someone up from Gatwick - yes.

Organise yourself and leave earlier.
You need to chill a little - you're turning into another Madway Handjob.
From: Happi Monday on
On 29/03/2010 12:13, JNugent wrote:
> mileburner wrote:
>> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>> news:hopq1u$vvu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> I was sitting at some lights on the A22 (not exactly a minor road)
>>> when a
>>> couple on a Tandem come past and stop. Not to the side, oh no. They stop
>>> right bang in front of me. Unsurprisingly when the lights go green me
>>> and
>>> all the traffic behind are now slooowly accelerating to a heady speed of
>>> 15mph and its only when I hammer the horn that these pair of tossers
>>> move
>>> over and I look in the mirror and the bloke at the front is laughing.
>>> I was
>>> sorely tempted to slam on the brakes and see how funny he thought it
>>> was then.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> Misuse of horn, driver intimidating tandem cyclist.
>
> Sounds more like a reminder to the cyclist(s) that there is other
> traffic on the road, and other travellers with a right to be due
> consideration.
>
> Flashing the headlamps would suffice with motor traffic. Bikes rarely
> have mirrors.
>
>> Slamming on the brakes in front of a cyclist is not realy acceptable
>> either.
>
> Neither is deliberately obstructing the road, is it?

The tandem is entitled to use the road - just 'coz he's in front,
doesn't make him an obstruction, at least, not in the sense it is being
used.