From: Tony Dragon on
mileburner wrote:
> "Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:81bs56F75cU2(a)mid.individual.net...
>> On 29/03/2010 15:00, mileburner wrote:
>>> Derek C wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most cyclists are slow and quite narrow, so can be safely overtaken if
>>>> the road is wide enough and if they keep well over to the nearside.
>>> While this is true, many drivers will not leave the space they ought to
>>> if
>>> they can see there is a chance that they can squeeze through. Keeping
>>> well
>>> over toward the centre ensures that they will only pass if there really
>>> is
>>> enough space and if they do sidewipe, there is somewhere to go. Gutter
>>> riding is not an option if you want to stay alive and well.
>>>
>>>
>> Well I've managed it in about 53 years of cycling.
>
> My uncle lived until he was 93 and smoked 20 Woodbines a day from the age of
> 14.
>
>

While cycling?

--
Tony Dragon
From: Adrian on
Tony Dragon <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

>> There's at least one single-track country road leads straight off an
>> M25 junction, anyway...

> Not that I doubt you, but where's that?

Jn17, heading out.
From: The Medway Handyman on
Happi Monday wrote:
> On 29/03/2010 10:44, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:35:17 +0200
>> "GeoffC"<me(a)home.invalid.com> wrote:
>>> boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
>>>> I was sitting at some lights on the A22 (not exactly a minor road)
>>>> when a couple on a Tandem come past and stop. Not to the side, oh
>>>> no. They stop right bang in front of me. Unsurprisingly when the
>>>> lights go green me and
>>>> all the traffic behind are now slooowly accelerating to a heady
>>>> speed of 15mph and its only when I hammer the horn that these pair
>>>> of tossers move over and I look in the mirror and the bloke at the
>>>> front is laughing. I was sorely tempted to slam on the brakes and
>>>> see how funny he thought it was then.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So how do you know what he was laughing at?
>>
>> Well since he was looking at me its a fair guess what it was.
>>
>>> Do you often have a tendency towards road-rage?
>>
>> When people deliberately obstruct me for no good reason when I'm
>> already late picking someone up from Gatwick - yes.
>
> Organise yourself and leave earlier.
> You need to chill a little - you're turning into another Madway
> Handjob.

And don't forget - if you are going to be late, use your O3 phone to call
them.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


From: The Medway Handyman on
Clive George wrote:
> On 29/03/2010 13:43, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:05:13 +0100
>> Happi Monday<happi(a)munday.com> wrote:
>>>>> Slamming on the brakes in front of a cyclist is not realy
>>>>> acceptable either.
>>>>
>>>> Neither is deliberately obstructing the road, is it?
>>>
>>> The tandem is entitled to use the road - just 'coz he's in front,
>>> doesn't make him an obstruction, at least, not in the sense it is
>>> being used.
>>
>> It does if they can move over to let traffic pass but decide not to
>> when theres no good reason for them to stay in the middle of the
>> lane (eg potholes parked cars). There was none of the above at this
>> junction and we're not talking a couple of seconds here, they sat in
>> the middle for a good 30 seconds before deigning to move over. Only
>> oncoming traffic prevented me from passing them which was probably lucky
>> for them as I wouldn't have
>> given them much of a wide berth if I had.
>
> I think you've just discovered why they were riding where they were -
> to stop you doing a dangerous overtake.

With respect, its not to job of a cyclist to stop other vehicle users
driving how they see fit. Epecially when one has passed a test of
competence & the other hasn't.


--
Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.


From: Brimstone on


"The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:aR5sn.332693$2R.94868(a)newsfe11.ams2...
> Clive George wrote:
>> On 29/03/2010 13:43, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote:
>>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:05:13 +0100
>>> Happi Monday<happi(a)munday.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Slamming on the brakes in front of a cyclist is not realy
>>>>>> acceptable either.
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither is deliberately obstructing the road, is it?
>>>>
>>>> The tandem is entitled to use the road - just 'coz he's in front,
>>>> doesn't make him an obstruction, at least, not in the sense it is
>>>> being used.
>>>
>>> It does if they can move over to let traffic pass but decide not to
>>> when theres no good reason for them to stay in the middle of the
>>> lane (eg potholes parked cars). There was none of the above at this
>>> junction and we're not talking a couple of seconds here, they sat in
>>> the middle for a good 30 seconds before deigning to move over. Only
>>> oncoming traffic prevented me from passing them which was probably lucky
>>> for them as I wouldn't have
>>> given them much of a wide berth if I had.
>>
>> I think you've just discovered why they were riding where they were -
>> to stop you doing a dangerous overtake.
>
> With respect, its not to job of a cyclist to stop other vehicle users
> driving how they see fit. Epecially when one has passed a test of
> competence & the other hasn't.
>
Are you suggesting that people don't have a responsibility to ensure that
others don't put them in danger?