From: Tony Dragon on 29 Mar 2010 12:56 mileburner wrote: > "Bod" <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:81bs56F75cU2(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 29/03/2010 15:00, mileburner wrote: >>> Derek C wrote: >>> >>>> Most cyclists are slow and quite narrow, so can be safely overtaken if >>>> the road is wide enough and if they keep well over to the nearside. >>> While this is true, many drivers will not leave the space they ought to >>> if >>> they can see there is a chance that they can squeeze through. Keeping >>> well >>> over toward the centre ensures that they will only pass if there really >>> is >>> enough space and if they do sidewipe, there is somewhere to go. Gutter >>> riding is not an option if you want to stay alive and well. >>> >>> >> Well I've managed it in about 53 years of cycling. > > My uncle lived until he was 93 and smoked 20 Woodbines a day from the age of > 14. > > While cycling? -- Tony Dragon
From: Adrian on 29 Mar 2010 13:36 Tony Dragon <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> There's at least one single-track country road leads straight off an >> M25 junction, anyway... > Not that I doubt you, but where's that? Jn17, heading out.
From: The Medway Handyman on 29 Mar 2010 13:51 Happi Monday wrote: > On 29/03/2010 10:44, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:35:17 +0200 >> "GeoffC"<me(a)home.invalid.com> wrote: >>> boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>> I was sitting at some lights on the A22 (not exactly a minor road) >>>> when a couple on a Tandem come past and stop. Not to the side, oh >>>> no. They stop right bang in front of me. Unsurprisingly when the >>>> lights go green me and >>>> all the traffic behind are now slooowly accelerating to a heady >>>> speed of 15mph and its only when I hammer the horn that these pair >>>> of tossers move over and I look in the mirror and the bloke at the >>>> front is laughing. I was sorely tempted to slam on the brakes and >>>> see how funny he thought it was then. >>>> >>> >>> So how do you know what he was laughing at? >> >> Well since he was looking at me its a fair guess what it was. >> >>> Do you often have a tendency towards road-rage? >> >> When people deliberately obstruct me for no good reason when I'm >> already late picking someone up from Gatwick - yes. > > Organise yourself and leave earlier. > You need to chill a little - you're turning into another Madway > Handjob. And don't forget - if you are going to be late, use your O3 phone to call them. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: The Medway Handyman on 29 Mar 2010 13:56 Clive George wrote: > On 29/03/2010 13:43, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:05:13 +0100 >> Happi Monday<happi(a)munday.com> wrote: >>>>> Slamming on the brakes in front of a cyclist is not realy >>>>> acceptable either. >>>> >>>> Neither is deliberately obstructing the road, is it? >>> >>> The tandem is entitled to use the road - just 'coz he's in front, >>> doesn't make him an obstruction, at least, not in the sense it is >>> being used. >> >> It does if they can move over to let traffic pass but decide not to >> when theres no good reason for them to stay in the middle of the >> lane (eg potholes parked cars). There was none of the above at this >> junction and we're not talking a couple of seconds here, they sat in >> the middle for a good 30 seconds before deigning to move over. Only >> oncoming traffic prevented me from passing them which was probably lucky >> for them as I wouldn't have >> given them much of a wide berth if I had. > > I think you've just discovered why they were riding where they were - > to stop you doing a dangerous overtake. With respect, its not to job of a cyclist to stop other vehicle users driving how they see fit. Epecially when one has passed a test of competence & the other hasn't. -- Dave - the small piece of 14th century armour used to protect the armpit.
From: Brimstone on 29 Mar 2010 14:04
"The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:aR5sn.332693$2R.94868(a)newsfe11.ams2... > Clive George wrote: >> On 29/03/2010 13:43, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote: >>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:05:13 +0100 >>> Happi Monday<happi(a)munday.com> wrote: >>>>>> Slamming on the brakes in front of a cyclist is not realy >>>>>> acceptable either. >>>>> >>>>> Neither is deliberately obstructing the road, is it? >>>> >>>> The tandem is entitled to use the road - just 'coz he's in front, >>>> doesn't make him an obstruction, at least, not in the sense it is >>>> being used. >>> >>> It does if they can move over to let traffic pass but decide not to >>> when theres no good reason for them to stay in the middle of the >>> lane (eg potholes parked cars). There was none of the above at this >>> junction and we're not talking a couple of seconds here, they sat in >>> the middle for a good 30 seconds before deigning to move over. Only >>> oncoming traffic prevented me from passing them which was probably lucky >>> for them as I wouldn't have >>> given them much of a wide berth if I had. >> >> I think you've just discovered why they were riding where they were - >> to stop you doing a dangerous overtake. > > With respect, its not to job of a cyclist to stop other vehicle users > driving how they see fit. Epecially when one has passed a test of > competence & the other hasn't. > Are you suggesting that people don't have a responsibility to ensure that others don't put them in danger? |