The horrors of biofuels.
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From: Doug on 1 May 2010 04:51 On 1 May, 08:55, Jim A <j...(a)averyjim.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On 05/01/2010 08:44 AM, Brimstone wrote: > > > And if the said bicycle falls on to the railway track 50 feet in front > > of a train travelling at 50 mph? > > Doug would accuse the train driver of 'ramming'. > Of course not, particularly as the same would apply to a wheelchair, mobility buggy or foot passenger falling on the track. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net The Law is always open to question.
From: Doug on 3 May 2010 15:12 On 1 May, 14:35, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> considered Sat, 1 May 2010 > 08:45:04 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > > > > > >"Phil W Lee" <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote in message > >news:jaqmt55ejpt21b5q9h5gk8pmhrkf4u4fia(a)4ax.com... > >> "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> considered Fri, 30 Apr 2010 > >> 09:31:41 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > >>>Brimstone wrote: > >>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >>>>news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... > >>>>> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > >>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > >>>>>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of > >>>>>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. > > >>>>>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as > >>>>>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, > >>>>>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can > >>>>>> easily ride a bike? > > >>>>> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as > >>>>> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a > >>>>> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do > >>>>> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. > >>>>> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless > >>>>> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are > >>>>> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. > > >>>> Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed > >>>> to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and > >>>> other people. > > >>>The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could > >>>topple off the edge and get seriously squished. > > >> But the risk is probably greater for a conventional wheelchair, > >> because instead of falling over if left uncontrolled, it will roll. > > >Wheelchairs have parking brakes. > > which are either on or off, and therefore of no use for controlling > speed. > A parking brake can be fitted to a bicycle with nothing more complex > than a velcro strap, but as already noted, they can't actually move > far without falling over when they are not under positive control. > The second part of the World Service programme about biofuels is being broadcast as I type. It is horrifying. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net Feed people not cars.
From: ash on 3 May 2010 18:54 On 3 May, 20:12, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote: > On 1 May, 14:35, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > > > > > "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> considered Sat, 1 May 2010 > > 08:45:04 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > > >"Phil W Lee" <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote in message > > >news:jaqmt55ejpt21b5q9h5gk8pmhrkf4u4fia(a)4ax.com... > > >> "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> considered Fri, 30 Apr 2010 > > >> 09:31:41 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > > >>>Brimstone wrote: > > >>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > >>>>news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... > > >>>>> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > > >>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote > > > >>>>>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of > > >>>>>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. > > > >>>>>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as > > >>>>>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, > > >>>>>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can > > >>>>>> easily ride a bike? > > > >>>>> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as > > >>>>> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a > > >>>>> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do > > >>>>> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. > > >>>>> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless > > >>>>> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are > > >>>>> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. > > > >>>> Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed > > >>>> to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and > > >>>> other people. > > > >>>The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could > > >>>topple off the edge and get seriously squished. > > > >> But the risk is probably greater for a conventional wheelchair, > > >> because instead of falling over if left uncontrolled, it will roll. > > > >Wheelchairs have parking brakes. > > > which are either on or off, and therefore of no use for controlling > > speed. > > A parking brake can be fitted to a bicycle with nothing more complex > > than a velcro strap, but as already noted, they can't actually move > > far without falling over when they are not under positive control. > > The second part of the World Service programme about biofuels is being > broadcast as I type. It is horrifying. > > -- > UK Radical Campaignswww.zing.icom43.net > Feed people not cars. Everything horrifies you Doug. The problem is there are too many people on the planet. Getting rid of cars would not solve this. One day the penny will drop and you will realise you have wasted a good part of your life for nothing. You and your kind will never make a difference, and the public will tire of your unreasonable demands on society. The outcome will still be the same in 1000 years for the descendants of those of us who have had children. The legacy of those who haven't will just be a few gig of data on long redundant chat room servers - if they haven't been recycled.
From: Tony Dragon on 3 May 2010 19:05 Doug wrote: > On 1 May, 14:35, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: >> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> considered Sat, 1 May 2010 >> 08:45:04 +0100 the perfect time to write: >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Phil W Lee" <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote in message >>> news:jaqmt55ejpt21b5q9h5gk8pmhrkf4u4fia(a)4ax.com... >>>> "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> considered Fri, 30 Apr 2010 >>>> 09:31:41 +0100 the perfect time to write: >>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote >>>>>>>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of >>>>>>>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. >>>>>>>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as >>>>>>>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, >>>>>>>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can >>>>>>>> easily ride a bike? >>>>>>> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as >>>>>>> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a >>>>>>> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do >>>>>>> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. >>>>>>> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless >>>>>>> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are >>>>>>> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. >>>>>> Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed >>>>>> to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and >>>>>> other people. >>>>> The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could >>>>> topple off the edge and get seriously squished. >>>> But the risk is probably greater for a conventional wheelchair, >>>> because instead of falling over if left uncontrolled, it will roll. >>> Wheelchairs have parking brakes. >> which are either on or off, and therefore of no use for controlling >> speed. >> A parking brake can be fitted to a bicycle with nothing more complex >> than a velcro strap, but as already noted, they can't actually move >> far without falling over when they are not under positive control. >> > The second part of the World Service programme about biofuels is being > broadcast as I type. It is horrifying. > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns > www.zing.icom43.net > Feed people not cars. I thought that there was only sport or election programmes on at present. -- Tony Dragon
From: Doug on 4 May 2010 02:00
On 4 May, 00:05, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > Doug wrote: > > On 1 May, 14:35, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote: > >> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> considered Sat, 1 May 2010 > >> 08:45:04 +0100 the perfect time to write: > > >>> "Phil W Lee" <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk> wrote in message > >>>news:jaqmt55ejpt21b5q9h5gk8pmhrkf4u4fia(a)4ax.com... > >>>> "mileburner" <milebur...(a)btinternet.com> considered Fri, 30 Apr 2010 > >>>> 09:31:41 +0100 the perfect time to write: > >>>>> Brimstone wrote: > >>>>>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:a0aec45d-9f49-4989-b0e3-4649b90e0c17(a)w36g2000yqw.googlegroups.com... > >>>>>>> On 30 Apr, 00:02, "DavidR" <cured...(a)4bidden.org.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>> Many/most of the disabled are no in a position to ride any kind of > >>>>>>>>> bike Doug. As usual, you think of no one except yourself. > >>>>>>>> If a blind person rides on the back of a tandem cease to qualify as > >>>>>>>> disabled? Or a one legged cyclist? How about the people with back, > >>>>>>>> hip or knee problems that struggle to walk a few yards but can > >>>>>>>> easily ride a bike? > >>>>>>> Its because they are tarred with the same derogatory brush as > >>>>>>> cyclists in general. The disabled must either be seated in a > >>>>>>> wheelchair or a car to qualify. The fact that a wheelchair could do > >>>>>>> 20mph on a pavement doesn't matter. Its the image that counts. > >>>>>>> Anyone on a bicycle must be fighting fit and able bodied and lawless > >>>>>>> by definition. There can be no exceptions and that is why they are > >>>>>>> not allowed on pavements or railway platforms. > >>>>>> Doug, how many times do you have to be told. Bicycles are not allowed > >>>>>> to be ridden on railway platforms for the safety of the rider and > >>>>>> other people. > >>>>> The risk is fairly obvious. The danger is that rider or pedestrian could > >>>>> topple off the edge and get seriously squished. > >>>> But the risk is probably greater for a conventional wheelchair, > >>>> because instead of falling over if left uncontrolled, it will roll. > >>> Wheelchairs have parking brakes. > >> which are either on or off, and therefore of no use for controlling > >> speed. > >> A parking brake can be fitted to a bicycle with nothing more complex > >> than a velcro strap, but as already noted, they can't actually move > >> far without falling over when they are not under positive control. > > > The second part of the World Service programme about biofuels is being > > broadcast as I type. It is horrifying. > > > -- > > UK Radical Campaigns > >www.zing.icom43.net > > Feed people not cars. > > I thought that there was only sport or election programmes on at present. > Fortunately the BBC World Service and foreign programmes don't suffer so much from such jingoistic addictions so one can seek a respite there. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net Feed people not cars. |