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From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 12:43 On May 5, 9:41 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on 4 May 2007 22:56:37 -0700, Martin Phipps > > <martinphip...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > [...] > > >> So, Vox/Ultra/Jonez/whatever, why do you have such a > >> compelling NEED to be dishonest? Why can't you be honest about > >> anything, ever? > > >The pathological liar and the honest man both claim to tell the truth. > > The difference is that the pathological liar (in this case, > Vox/Ultra/Jonez/whatever) is lying when he claims to the telling the > truth. > > >Kent, we know you aren't an honest man. So that makes you the > >pathological liar. > > Please cite one lie from me. Just one is all I ask. > I have crickets on stand-by. You've accused people of not offering you proofs of the non-existance of gods. You've accused people of avoiding your questions. You've claimed that agnostics are not atheists (when they do clearly lack belief in any gods). You've argued that quotes from the Bible have nothing to do with Christianity and that people are presenting "lies" when they quote the Bible and use them against you. The real question is when have you ever told the truth? I honestly haven't seen a single example yet of you telling the truth. Martin
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 12:45 On May 5, 9:42 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on 4 May 2007 22:54:34 -0700, Martin Phipps > > <martinphip...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On May 5, 7:42 am, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Do TRY and be honest. This will be VERY difficult for you, > >> I'm sure. But try. With each occurrence of honesty, you'll find it > >> easier and easier. Soon it will be very natural. > > >How would you know? > > I know more about psychology than the average person on the > street. It comes from a combination of being married to a > Psychologist and reading her books when my insomnia kicks in. You may have read about how it becomes easier to tell the truth when you practice telling the truth but so far you've only demonstrated that it becomes easier to tell lies when you practice telling lies. Martin
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 12:47 On May 5, 9:49 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on Sat, 5 May 2007 13:12:07 +1000, "Jeckyl" > > > > > > <n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > >"Kent Wills" <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:80fn33htcpv4ar4e8nqpoa8397u3635qa3(a)4ax.com... > >> As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 10:37:06 +1000, "Jeckyl" > >> <n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>>"Kent Wills" <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:hatk331kpodcvs6mel0a1gmeklc6rq8qo8(a)4ax.com... > >>>> As I understand it, on Fri, 4 May 2007 03:14:47 +1000, "Jeckyl" > >>>> <n...(a)nowhere.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ <thep...(a)jonez.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I will gladly show that your pig-ignorant grotesque > >>>>>>>> perverted superstition that you call christianity is > >>>>>>>> utterly false. > > >>>>>Please present this proof. > > >>>> I've been asking for proof that atheism is correct for a very > >>>> long time. > > >>>Easy .. > > >>>The theist position is to know that god exists > > >> To claim to KNOW is to claim to have proof. No sane person > >> would claim to KNOW there is a god. > > >I wasn't talking about sane people, I was talking about theists > > Some of the most sane people you'll find. Theism and sanity are contradictions in terms. God belief is a delusion. Martin
From: Martin Phipps on 5 May 2007 12:48 On May 5, 9:50 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand it, on Fri, 04 May 2007 23:14:29 -0700, "Fred G. > > Mackey" <nos...(a)dont.spam> wrote: > >° Shanghai Lil ° wrote: > > >> Gods do not exist. Not a "belief", it's a fact. > > >So you're an atheist - that's cool with me - don't feel ashamed about > >it, just don't try to distort facts and call others atheists who are not. > >But of course such protests help prove my point that you are just as > >religious as all the others who DO believe in God(s). > > He does believe. He hates the Christian God too much not to > believe He doesn't exist. How can anyone hate something that doesn't exist? Martin
From: Larry on 5 May 2007 12:51
In article <1178383438.823684.52500(a)n76g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, Martin Phipps <martinphipps2(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 5, 9:41 pm, Kent Wills <compu...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > As I understand it, on 4 May 2007 22:56:37 -0700, Martin Phipps > > > > <martinphip...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > >> So, Vox/Ultra/Jonez/whatever, why do you have such a > > >> compelling NEED to be dishonest? Why can't you be honest about > > >> anything, ever? > > > > >The pathological liar and the honest man both claim to tell the truth. > > > > The difference is that the pathological liar (in this case, > > Vox/Ultra/Jonez/whatever) is lying when he claims to the telling the > > truth. > > > > >Kent, we know you aren't an honest man. So that makes you the > > >pathological liar. > > > > Please cite one lie from me. Just one is all I ask. > > I have crickets on stand-by. > > You've accused people of not offering you proofs of the non-existance > of gods. If someone makes that claim, is it unreasonable to ask them for proof? > You've accused people of avoiding your questions. I've seen Kent do this frequently - in cases where people (usually Vox/Jonez who is notorious for doing so) avoid his questions. > You've > claimed that agnostics are not atheists (when they do clearly lack > belief in any gods). Agnosticism and atheism are different, so there can be an argument that they are different. > You've argued that quotes from the Bible have > nothing to do with Christianity and that people are presenting "lies" > when they quote the Bible and use them against you. The real question > is when have you ever told the truth? I honestly haven't seen a > single example yet of you telling the truth. Then you either selectively read his posts or are lying yourself. Kent and I don't agree on much, but I can't recall him every deliberately lying. |