From: Brimstone on 11 Dec 2006 11:49 SteveH wrote: > Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> Alternatively, the term used to describe the person managing the >>> store managers. >> >> If they've been properly selected and trained why do they need >> "managing"? > > Do you actually know what you're talking about here, or are you making > it up as you go along? > > Everybody in a business will have a more senior person 'managing' > them - apart from maybe the owner of a privately held business. I'm aware that they do, but my question was, (just in case you've forgotten) "If they've been properly selected and trained why do they need "managing"?". I'm also assuming they've been provided with the correct and best tools for the job with autonomy do run their operation in the most effective manner. Why is there a need for this plethora of managers managing managers, especially in this age of "lean management"? Are the people you're supposeedly managing genuinely managers or merely supervisors?
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 11:54 Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Everybody in a business will have a more senior person 'managing' > > them - apart from maybe the owner of a privately held business. > > I'm aware that they do, but my question was, (just in case you've forgotten) > "If they've been properly selected and trained why do they need > "managing"?". I'm also assuming they've been provided with the correct and > best tools for the job with autonomy do run their operation in the most > effective manner. > > Why is there a need for this plethora of managers managing managers, > especially in this age of "lean management"? > > Are the people you're supposeedly managing genuinely managers or merely > supervisors? They're store managers. All retail operations have a structure of store managers - area managers - regional managers. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Brimstone on 11 Dec 2006 12:03 SteveH wrote: > Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> Everybody in a business will have a more senior person 'managing' >>> them - apart from maybe the owner of a privately held business. >> >> I'm aware that they do, but my question was, (just in case you've >> forgotten) "If they've been properly selected and trained why do >> they need "managing"?". I'm also assuming they've been provided with >> the correct and best tools for the job with autonomy do run their >> operation in the most effective manner. >> >> Why is there a need for this plethora of managers managing managers, >> especially in this age of "lean management"? >> >> Are the people you're supposeedly managing genuinely managers or >> merely supervisors? > > They're store managers. > > All retail operations have a structure of store managers - area > managers - regional managers. (sigh) Yes, we know they do, but why are they needed?
From: SteveH on 11 Dec 2006 12:33 Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > All retail operations have a structure of store managers - area > > managers - regional managers. > > (sigh) Yes, we know they do, but why are they needed? Because the Store Operations Director doesn't have the time or resources to analyse individual store performance and issues. Do you have any idea how complex it is to analyse the performance of even a small retail outlet? - especially in the food industry. -- SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #
From: Brimstone on 11 Dec 2006 12:38
SteveH wrote: > Brimstone <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>> All retail operations have a structure of store managers - area >>> managers - regional managers. >> >> (sigh) Yes, we know they do, but why are they needed? > > Because the Store Operations Director doesn't have the time or > resources to analyse individual store performance and issues. Is the analysis what you do? |