Monbiot on speed cameras and the real war
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From: Brimstone on 30 Jul 2010 04:48 "Matt B" <matt.bourke(a)nospam.london.com> wrote in message news:8bfhapF1c0U1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 30/07/2010 09:03, Brimstone wrote: >> >> "Matt B" <matt.bourke(a)nospam.london.com> wrote in message >> news:8bf9d8Fi9hU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>> On 30/07/2010 07:12, Chelsea Tractor Man wrote: >>>> On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:02:15 +0100, JNugent wrote: >>>> >>>>> IOW, road tax (where charged) is a charge for the use of the roads. >>>> >>>> no, its a *tax* on those who use powered vehicles on the roads >>> >>> ITYM, _yes_, it's a *tax* on _some_ of those who use powered vehicles >>> on _public_ roads. >>> >> <pedant mode> >> >> ITYM it's a tax on all powered vehicles although some are set at a zero >> rate at the moment. >> >> </pedant mode> > > <pedant strength="maximum"> > Only those that are required to be registered and to display a licence > disc. > </pedant> > I can't think of any powered vehicles permitted to use the public highway which are not required to be registered and to display a VED disc even if the rate is zero. Perhaps you can fill in the gap in my knowledge?
From: Adrian on 30 Jul 2010 04:49 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > I can't think of any powered vehicles permitted to use the public > highway which are not required to be registered and to display a VED > disc even if the rate is zero. Perhaps you can fill in the gap in my > knowledge? Electric bicycles?
From: Brimstone on 30 Jul 2010 04:50 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:8bfhilF5hpU6(a)mid.individual.net... > Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding > much like they were saying: > >> So am I, but we both know and understand what's behind my comment I >> think. Injury accidents are mostly the province of the technically >> competant, confident male, not the bumbling old lady who takes 15 >> attempts to pass. > > Except, of course, the "bumbling old lady" wasn't either bumbling or old > when she did pass. Not everyone takes their driving test in their late teens/early twenties.
From: Adrian on 30 Jul 2010 04:51 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> So am I, but we both know and understand what's behind my comment I >>> think. Injury accidents are mostly the province of the technically >>> competant, confident male, not the bumbling old lady who takes 15 >>> attempts to pass. >> Except, of course, the "bumbling old lady" wasn't either bumbling or >> old when she did pass. > Not everyone takes their driving test in their late teens/early > twenties. I wonder how many take them in their 70s or 80s, though?
From: Brimstone on 30 Jul 2010 04:52
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:8bfi1fF5hpU7(a)mid.individual.net... > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying: > >> I can't think of any powered vehicles permitted to use the public >> highway which are not required to be registered and to display a VED >> disc even if the rate is zero. Perhaps you can fill in the gap in my >> knowledge? > > Electric bicycles? Is one. |