The fragility of car computers revealed.
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From: GT on 23 May 2010 04:49 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:8add536f-2520-4b07-8034-97f341e2f969(a)z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... > On 21 May, 09:59, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >> On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:54:07 +0100 >> >> Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> "The computer systems used to control modern cars are very vulnerable >> >>> to attack, say experts. >> >> >And just how do they get access to it, Doug? >> >> Doug seems to forget that his bicycle is vulnerable to a large stick in >> the wheel spokes. Beware of those nasty trees doug! >> > Unlike the defective car driver though the cyclist would be unlikely > to inure anyone but himself. Most car accidents don't injure anyone - they are just minor bumps. Unlike most bicycle accidents where people tend to injure hands and knees.
From: Doug on 23 May 2010 10:21 On 23 May, 09:49, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > news:8add536f-2520-4b07-8034-97f341e2f969(a)z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... > > > On 21 May, 09:59, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: > >> On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:54:07 +0100 > > >> Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > >> >>> "The computer systems used to control modern cars are very vulnerable > >> >>> to attack, say experts. > > >> >And just how do they get access to it, Doug? > > >> Doug seems to forget that his bicycle is vulnerable to a large stick in > >> the wheel spokes. Beware of those nasty trees doug! > > > Unlike the defective car driver though the cyclist would be unlikely > > to inure anyone but himself. > > Most car accidents don't injure anyone - they are just minor bumps. Unlike > most bicycle accidents where people tend to injure hands and knees. > They are not euphemistic 'accidents' they are 'crashes'. Car crashes are far more dangerous than bicycle crashes and kill very many mmore people. -- UK Radical Campaigns. http://www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill.
From: Bod on 23 May 2010 10:26 Doug wrote: > On 23 May, 09:49, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> >> news:8add536f-2520-4b07-8034-97f341e2f969(a)z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com... >> >>> On 21 May, 09:59, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: >>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:54:07 +0100 >>>> Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> "The computer systems used to control modern cars are very vulnerable >>>>>>> to attack, say experts. >>>>> And just how do they get access to it, Doug? >>>> Doug seems to forget that his bicycle is vulnerable to a large stick in >>>> the wheel spokes. Beware of those nasty trees doug! >>> Unlike the defective car driver though the cyclist would be unlikely >>> to inure anyone but himself. >> Most car accidents don't injure anyone - they are just minor bumps. Unlike >> most bicycle accidents where people tend to injure hands and knees. >> > They are not euphemistic 'accidents' they are 'crashes'. Car crashes > are far more dangerous than bicycle crashes and kill very many mmore > people. > > -- > UK Radical Campaigns. > http://www.zing.icom43.net > A driving licence is a licence to kill. > > Change the record Doug. Bod
From: Mrcheerful on 23 May 2010 11:24 Phil W Lee wrote: > Marie <marie.lawrie(a)yahoo.co.uk> considered Sat, 22 May 2010 01:35:54 > -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: > >> >> Yet again Doug uses the old 'cops are against cyclists, because cops >> are car drivers' rubbish. > > Maybe you should look at some actual statistics before arguing with > this one. > > Then you would see that cyclists are indeed targeted by the police to > a degree out of all proportion to the danger they represent to others, > where the far more dangerous motorist behaviours are largely ignored. it is odd, because over the years I have seen several hundred cars, vans, lorries and motorcycles stopped by police, but I really cannot remember a single cyclist being stopped by a police man. So, yes it is anecdotal, but my road experience over many years says that cyclists are NOT persecuted by the police as you suggest.
From: Doug on 23 May 2010 11:26
On 23 May, 15:26, Bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Doug wrote: > > On 23 May, 09:49, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > >> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message > > >>news:8add536f-2520-4b07-8034-97f341e2f969(a)z33g2000vbb.googlegroups.com.... > > >>> On 21 May, 09:59, boltar2...(a)boltar.world wrote: > >>>> On Fri, 21 May 2010 09:54:07 +0100 > >>>> Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>> "The computer systems used to control modern cars are very vulnerable > >>>>>>> to attack, say experts. > >>>>> And just how do they get access to it, Doug? > >>>> Doug seems to forget that his bicycle is vulnerable to a large stick in > >>>> the wheel spokes. Beware of those nasty trees doug! > >>> Unlike the defective car driver though the cyclist would be unlikely > >>> to inure anyone but himself. > >> Most car accidents don't injure anyone - they are just minor bumps. Unlike > >> most bicycle accidents where people tend to injure hands and knees. > > > They are not euphemistic 'accidents' they are 'crashes'. Car crashes > > are far more dangerous than bicycle crashes and kill very many mmore > > people. > > > > > Change the record Doug. > OK how about getting back to the thread title? Have you ever experienced a computer crash? If so, can you imagine what might happen with a computer which controls speed and braking, etc? > > -- > > UK Radical Campaigns. > >http://www.zing.icom43.net > > A driving licence is a licence to kill. |