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From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 05:33 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>>> Not so safe if you happen to have a blowout at that sort of speed. > >>> Or at 70. > >>>> Don't say it could never happen because you've got decent tyres on, it >>>> could happen to anyone. > >>> True, it might - but so far it's never once happened to me. Has it ever >>> happened to you? > > >> Happened once to me about 40 years ago while driving a large Rover 3.5 >> in Taplow at about 35mph. It was frightening and a struggle to keep the >> car straight, this was on a bend. > > What caused it? > > To be honest, I think the tyre was a bit suspect, but not anywhere near bald. Money was tight then, so I was trying to make the tyres last as long as was feasible. I was very young and not so wise. Bod
From: Mike P on 1 Jul 2010 05:37 On 1 July, 10:28, bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Adrian wrote: > > bod <bodro...(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > > saying: > > >>>> Yet you nitpick him for driving a few mph over the speed limit > > >>> <sigh> Once again, a little more slowly for your benefit. > > >>> No, I "nitpick" him for breaking the speed limit whilst simultaneously > >>> castigating others for breaking the speed limit. > > >>> Either the speed limit is the law and to be obeyed regardless of > >>> conditions, or the speed limit is a guideline and conditions are the > >>> important bit. > > >>> Can't have it both ways. > > >>>> I'd bet that you would do the same, especially if the flow of traffic > >>>> was also doing 32mph?....I do. > > >>> I'm not the one calling others "stupid" for breaking the speed limit. > > >> There you go again. > > > There one of us goes... > > >> Yes, Kev is a stickler regarding adhering to speed limits > > > No, he isn't. He claims to be - then continually refers to breaking them. > > But not by enough to be caught. > > > I wonder what'll happen when he smugly bimbles past a camera that's set > > lower than he expects, or wanders into an area that's having a zero- > > tolerance crackdown? > > >> and yes I agree with you that there are times when it is safe to exceed > >> the limit by a considerable amount, but not every driver is as capable > >> of measuring the safe times when to do it. > > > Then - unless you believe that every limit is always an appropriate > > speed, regardless of conditions - those drivers are not competent enough > > to be on the road. Do you believe every limit is always an appropriate > > speed, regardless of conditions? > > >> With that in mind, you cannot really knock him for advising drivers to > >> stick to the limits. > > > "Do as I say, not as I do". > > > THAT's what I'm commenting on - it's more formally known as "hypocrisy".. > > >> You must also accept, that having spent so long in the 'force', his > >> mindset will have been influenced by the nasty road smashes that he has > >> had to attend to and seen the macabre results, plus that horrible > >> experience of having to knock on the door of the deceaseds parents > >> etc,to give them the tragic news. > > > Small problem with that theory - he's already explicitly agreed that his > > opinion is nothing to do with whether the speed is appropriate and safe, > > only to do with the risk of being caught. > > > > > > > He associates speeding with danger as well. He said it was ok and that I didn't deserve to be nicked in Germany when I was doing 150 on the bike.... Mike P
From: Adrian on 1 Jul 2010 06:13 bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>> I never ever exceed any speed limit by more than a few mph - and I >>>>> believe that people who drive considerably in excess of the speed >>>>> limits deserve to get booked. >>>> Regardless of conditions? >>> Regardless of conditions. They know what the limit is. If they are >>> stupid enough to risk prosecution and a ban by driving well in excess >>> of that limit then, yes, they deserve to be be booked. The police >>> allow a generous margin before prosecution - exceeding that by a large >>> margin is really just taking the mick. > Well, that's his point of view and to be fair, it's hard to argue > against it, because technically he's correct. Maybe, maybe not. He's correct in that it's committing an offence - exceeding the speed limit. We could argue "deserve" all day - but ICBA. My point is that that's where he heads rapidly into hypocrisy - since he admits to frequently committing the exact same offence. Apparently, though, he _doesn't_ "deserve" to be nicked.
From: bod on 1 Jul 2010 06:18 Adrian wrote: > bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > >>>>>> I never ever exceed any speed limit by more than a few mph - and I >>>>>> believe that people who drive considerably in excess of the speed >>>>>> limits deserve to get booked. > >>>>> Regardless of conditions? > >>>> Regardless of conditions. They know what the limit is. If they are >>>> stupid enough to risk prosecution and a ban by driving well in excess >>>> of that limit then, yes, they deserve to be be booked. The police >>>> allow a generous margin before prosecution - exceeding that by a large >>>> margin is really just taking the mick. > >> Well, that's his point of view and to be fair, it's hard to argue >> against it, because technically he's correct. > > Maybe, maybe not. He's correct in that it's committing an offence - > exceeding the speed limit. We could argue "deserve" all day - but ICBA. > > My point is that that's where he heads rapidly into hypocrisy - since he > admits to frequently committing the exact same offence. Apparently, > though, he _doesn't_ "deserve" to be nicked. > > Technically, yes. In reality, no. Bod
From: Adrian on 1 Jul 2010 06:26
bod <bodron57(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>>>>>> I never ever exceed any speed limit by more than a few mph - and I >>>>>>> believe that people who drive considerably in excess of the speed >>>>>>> limits deserve to get booked. >>>>>> Regardless of conditions? >>>>> Regardless of conditions. They know what the limit is. If they are >>>>> stupid enough to risk prosecution and a ban by driving well in >>>>> excess of that limit then, yes, they deserve to be be booked. The >>>>> police allow a generous margin before prosecution - exceeding that >>>>> by a large margin is really just taking the mick. >>> Well, that's his point of view and to be fair, it's hard to argue >>> against it, because technically he's correct. >> Maybe, maybe not. He's correct in that it's committing an offence - >> exceeding the speed limit. We could argue "deserve" all day - but ICBA. >> >> My point is that that's where he heads rapidly into hypocrisy - since >> he admits to frequently committing the exact same offence. Apparently, >> though, he _doesn't_ "deserve" to be nicked. > Technically, yes. In reality, no. In what way is exceeding the speed limit not the same as exceeding the speed limit? The exact same offence has been committed. Just as nicking a Twix from the newsagent is the same as nicking the till. Except that one is very unlikely to be actually prosecuted. Does that make it RIGHT? If the law is the law and to be obeyed because it's the law, then... |