From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:LoKdnQRPOouT5XrZnZ2dnUVZ8qSdnZ2d(a)bt.com
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> So if you're not European, are you African, Asian,
>>>> American or Australian?
>>>
>>> No, I'm English, how many more times..?
>>
>> But England doesn't exist in isolation, it's part of
>> Europe. Therefore you are European.
>
> I admit England is part of Europe, but I am not. How many more
> times..?

If your parents were British ethic origin and you were born in England it is
impossible for you not to be European.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ReOdnUU-DIik4HrZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com
>
> [snip]
>
>> Standing by your principles is good, unless you're wrong.
>> Which you are.
>
> You don't know me. You cannot even begin to know whether I'm right or
> wrong.

I'm referring only to this conversation, in which your stance is wrong.

>
> And I'm *still* not a European, so the sooner you stop calling me one
> the sooner we can get back to some semblance of normality.

When you accept reality then normailty may have a chance of reappearing, if
anyone knows what it looks like.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig(a)oil.com> wrote in message
> news:q6uee2hvppmduh5aiguucpfiks2vesvko1(a)4ax.com
>> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:29:07 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>> <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:v5qdnZ-vQubz6XrZRVnyiw(a)bt.com
>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>>> I am not a European.
>>>>
>>>> Oh yes you are!
>>>
>>> Wrong.
>>>
>>> Ivor
>>>
>>
>> Who are you to define what you are or are not? That's not
>> up to you, feller. It's up to everyone else.
>
> Wrong. Nobody else has the right to define me in any way, shape or
> form. When you understand that, I will stop.

So you object to being defined as a human male?


From: Adrian on
Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

>> Therefore you are European.

> I admit England is part of Europe, but I am not. How many more times..?

So an Ethiopean or a Nigerian isn't an African?
A Brazilian or an Argentinian isn't a South American?
A German or an Italian isn't a European?

Or is this just a personal thing, and you somehow opted out?
From: Adrian on
Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying :

>> > I am not a European.

>> What does the front cover of your passport say?

> I'll tell you what it doesn't say - European Citizen.

Who ever said it did?

Are you claiming it doesn't say "European" on it at all?