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From: Adrian on 19 Aug 2006 16:44 Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : >> > > You still haven't said whether you recognise the terms >> > > American, Asian, African or Australian. >> > That's not relevant. >> It certainly is - because by your logic, there's no such >> thing as an Asian or African, because there's no country >> called Asia or Africa. > I'm not talking about Africa or Asia. You fail to see the parallel?
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on 19 Aug 2006 16:45 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:22:57 +0100, Tony Raven <junk(a)raven-family.com> wrote: >Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote on 19/08/2006 21:03 +0100: >> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:05:20 +0100, Tony Raven <junk(a)raven-family.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Brimstone wrote on 19/08/2006 19:53 +0100: >>>>> It has to be more than just usage otherwise writing "guvf vf n ybnq bs >>>>> yvathvfgvp gbfu" would be considered perfectly acceptable English. >>>> For which I, and others I expect, would need a translation. >>>> >>> No translation needed. According to Paul's usage criterion, since I am >>> English and used it, it is English. >> >> Hmmmm. look up 'usage'. >> And you nationality isn't relevant. >> > >"The action of using something; the fact of being used; use, employment" Look further - it's a term used in discourse about language, and it has a specific meaning in that context (something along the lines of normal or accepted patterns of vocab, pronunciation, etc.). -- Paul Rooney "Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking) "Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much, especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking) "Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local)
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on 19 Aug 2006 16:46 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:30:12 +0000 (UTC), Chris Malcolm <cam(a)holyrood.ed.ac.uk> wrote: >In uk.rec.cycling Paul {Hamilton Rooney} <craig(a)oil.com> wrote: > >>>>It has become accepted usage. That is how languages evolve. >>> >>>So? > >> Usage is king. There's no other criterion of right and wrong where language >> is concerned. How could there be? > >It couldn't be. Were usage the only criterion, there would be no >change. ??????? -- Paul Rooney "Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking) "Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much, especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking) "Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local)
From: Paul {Hamilton Rooney} on 19 Aug 2006 16:48 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:29:07 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:v5qdnZ-vQubz6XrZRVnyiw(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: > >[snip] > >> > I am not a European. >> >> Oh yes you are! > >Wrong. > >Ivor > Who are you to define what you are or are not? That's not up to you, feller. It's up to everyone else. -- Paul Rooney "Rooney is one of these vandals and has done his utmost to help trash dl and the other groups which he regularly crossposts to. He's created a false FAQ and charter" (Chris Lawrence in uk.rec.walking) "Also long time d.l. reader but never feel robust enough to post much, especially since Rooney wrecked the group." (Rachel Sullivan in uk.rec.walking) "Low life scum doesn't even begin to describe you. You are the most loathsome individual ever to cross the threshold of d.l." (JK in demon.local)
From: Adrian on 19 Aug 2006 16:50
Ivor Jones (ivor(a)despammed.invalid) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : >> > I'm not a native of Europe, there is no such country. I >> > can only be a native of a country, not a continent. >> Since a native is "A person born in a specified place, >> region, or country, whether subsequently resident there >> or not " you can be a native of a continent. > You can if you want, I am not. Why are you so against being termed a European? What's *wrong* with Europe? Is this purely being geographically pedantic, or is there more to it? |