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From: Brimstone on 19 Aug 2006 14:58 "Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig(a)oil.com> wrote in message news:ujnee2lv3vmcuplg75rtl26b7eu3lqg0ld(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 19:18:43 +0100, "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> >>"Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >>news:4kp2o1Fd91ooU1(a)individual.net... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:O8mdnXqSgtm4yXrZRVnyqA(a)bt.com >>>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >>>> news:4kp1t9Fd9flvU1(a)individual.net... >>>> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>> > news:gKKdnSyNBsv6zXrZnZ2dnUVZ8tGdnZ2d(a)bt.com >>>> > >>>> > [snip] >>>> > >>>> > > It's a simple fact of life, like the colour of your >>>> > > hair or eyes. You're a European, unless your parents >>>> > > are of a different ethnic origin to the natives. >>>> > >>>> > Wrong. My parents have nothing to do with it, neither >>>> > does a continent. I am defined by my country of birth, >>>> > and nothing, repeat *NOTHING* else. >>>> >>>> Are you serious? Are you really saying that you parents >>>> had nothing to do with your birth? >>> >>> No, I'm saying that their nationality has nothing to do with mine, apart >>> from the fact that my mother was (obviously) in the country I was born >>> in >>> at the time. >> >>That's a relief, I was getting a bit concerned. :-) >> >>>> There's no point in you putting your fingers in your ears >>>> and shouting to keep out the noise. Your country of birth >>>> is in Europe, therefore, even by your own definition, you >>>> are European. >>> >>> There's no point in you putting your fingers in your ears and shouting >>> "you're a European" because that still won't make me one. I am defined >>> by >>> my *country* not a continent. End of story. >> >>I don't have to shout anything to make you what you already are. You are >>defined by country, state, continent and (if ever the time comes) planet. >> > > Ivor is not an Earthling, clearly. But I thought the last lot that invaded the south of England were killed off by the bacteria?
From: PC Paul on 19 Aug 2006 15:01 Ivor Jones wrote: > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:sNednS1y7K-fy3rZnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d(a)bt.com > > [snip] > >> I don't have to shout anything to make you what you >> already are. You are defined by country, state, continent >> and (if ever the time comes) planet. > > Country. Nothing else. Give up. Don't think I will, puny Earthling.
From: Richard Brookman on 19 Aug 2006 15:03 Tony Raven wrote: || Paul {Hamilton Rooney} wrote on 19/08/2006 09:58 +0100: ||| ||| You hear it on the BBC now. There was a time when those anals ||| wouldn't even split an infinitive. || || Although it's grammatically perfectly OK to split an infinitive || (Cambridge Grammar of the English Language Chapter 4) || ||| ||| Usage is usage. Neither accurate nor inaccurate. That's how ||| language works. ||| || || It has to be more than just usage otherwise writing "guvf vf n ybnq || bs yvathvfgvp gbfu" would be considered perfectly acceptable || English. That's not usage, that just you making something up. Usage is what is generally agreed among language users, which is how communication is possible. If 99 of us refer to a bit of furniture as a "table" and the other 1 calls it a "gnoyr", then usage says it's a table. -- Rich ============================== Take out the obvious to email me.
From: Tony Raven on 19 Aug 2006 15:05 Brimstone wrote on 19/08/2006 19:53 +0100: > >> It has to be more than just usage otherwise writing "guvf vf n ybnq bs >> yvathvfgvp gbfu" would be considered perfectly acceptable English. > > For which I, and others I expect, would need a translation. > No translation needed. According to Paul's usage criterion, since I am English and used it, it is English. -- Tony "Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using his intelligence; he is just using his memory." - Leonardo da Vinci
From: Adrian on 19 Aug 2006 15:06
PC Paul (urd(a)munge.org.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : > Look, poor Ivor has said he gives up lots of times, why not just let him! I'm not *forcing* him to reply... are you? |