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From: Ian on 6 Aug 2010 14:41 "martin" <usenet(a)etiqa.co.uk> wrote in message news:4c5b3cc0$0$27995$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... > On 05/08/2010 23:23, Brimstone wrote: >> >> "Periander" <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:Xns9DCBEAC1CAB90ulmbritwarcouk(a)69.16.176.253... >>> "Brimstone" <brimstone520-ng08(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in >>> news:YdadnYh8R_bwkMbRnZ2dnUVZ8uidnZ2d(a)bt.com: >>> >>>> I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top >>>> reaction. >>>> It's a wonderful example of how some public servants think >>>> they're the >>>> masters and we are to do their bidding. >>>> >>>> There is a video on the website. >>>> >>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-sma >>>> sh-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html >>>> >>> >>> The time was when anyone, but anyone who lead police on a 17 >>> minute chase >>> they'd have had a damned sight more than a broken window to >>> complain >>> about, >>> not that they'd dare. >> >> What "chase"? He was bimbling along well within the speed limit. > > National speed limit, 50mph down country roads. > > I'd not like to drive more than an average of 20mph down our country > roads never mind the NSL applies. > > Speed not relevant. He led off on a 17 minute chase down country > roads at a speed of averaging over 50mph. Ummmm...... 8 miles "chase", taking 17 minutes, works out at .....ummm... 8 times 60 over 17.... 480 over 17.... (get log tables out....) GOT IT!!! 28.26 mph. Which is NOT an average of "over 50 mph". I suppose he *might* have gone at 50 mph for a minute or so, we don't know, but his speed for the rest of the "chase" would have been a helluva lot lower than the 28.26 mph in that case....
From: Steve O on 6 Aug 2010 17:53 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:f25771a7-32fc-4be0-9687-e23d602d9d5c(a)q22g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On 6 Aug, 15:42, "GT" <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> "Chelsea Tractor Man" <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in >> messagenews:un1k9j8pxzoh.9fgss52xwp89.dlg(a)40tude.net... >> >> >> >> > On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote: >> >> >>> as in the other post, his RR will almost certainly be the same as my >> >>> LR. >> >>> Stays locked. >> >> >> Fair enough - they'll need to smash the windows and jump on the bonnet >> >> like >> >> gorillas then!! >> >> > I suspect they are trained to go in fast, after all the average person >> > who >> > fails to stop is going to be trouble. Put yourself in the coppers >> > position, >> > this old gaffer in a *Range Rover* (plenty of villans drive them) has >> > driven off mid interview. Is he carrying drugs? A firearm? Just because >> > he >> > is 70 does not been he cannot be an armed criminal or a madman like >> > that >> > bloke who recently shot and blinded a copper in the Lake District for >> > no >> > rational reason at all. >> > He was being followed by a car with blue lights, (the idea of a police >> > escort is ridiculous) even if he thought it nothing to do with him >> > (even >> > though he had just been speaking to the coppers) he should have pulled >> > over >> > to let it through. >> >> I agree with all but the last part - he should have pulled over if the >> police car was anywhere near him, but it wasn't. > > Where in the video was there a place to pull over? He pulled over at > the first shown stopping place. No, it was a 17 minute chase. That is quite a long chase. Apparently, the old duffer, after having struck a police officer with his car and making off from a police stop check, didn't stop when the police chased him because he thought he was "getting a police escort home" He was clued up enough to stop when the stop sticks were deployed, though.
From: Steve O on 6 Aug 2010 17:54 "NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message news:186a40ce-eec0-4e43-a9d3-86440a891be5(a)x21g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > On 6 Aug, 15:20, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.trac...(a)hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: >> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 14:54:01 +0100, GT wrote: >> >> as in the other post, his RR will almost certainly be the same as my >> >> LR. >> >> Stays locked. >> >> > Fair enough - they'll need to smash the windows and jump on the bonnet >> > like >> > gorillas then!! >> >> I suspect they are trained to go in fast, after all the average person >> who >> fails to stop is going to be trouble. Put yourself in the coppers >> position, >> this old gaffer in a *Range Rover* (plenty of villans drive them) has >> driven off mid interview. Is he carrying drugs? A firearm? Just because >> he >> is 70 does not been he cannot be an armed criminal or a madman like that >> bloke who recently shot and blinded a copper in the Lake District for no >> rational reason at all. >> He was being followed by a car with blue lights, (the idea of a police >> escort is ridiculous) even if he thought it nothing to do with him (even >> though he had just been speaking to the coppers) he should have pulled >> over >> to let it through. >> -- > > So you smash his car up and assult him just to be on the safe side? Who is claiming he was assaulted? I saw him being led out of his car. >
From: Steve O on 6 Aug 2010 17:56 "Mike Ross" <mike(a)corestore.org> wrote in message news:qv8o56lr19ckt8d6h15ncfoh6fhmvrjavl(a)4ax.com... > On 6 Aug 2010 14:58:06 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>Mike Ross <mike(a)corestore.org> gurgled happily, sounding much like they >>were saying: >> >>> And, they KNEW they were dealing with a very elderly chap. Now there are >>> some elderly chaps who are complete bastards, can be very aggressive, >>> sure. Some were serious hard cases in their younger days, no doubt. But >>> still, he was 70, they knew this, and I haven't heard anything to >>> suggest he was aggresive. >> >>Apart from the fact that 70 is a long way from "very elderly", do you >>think that the acceptable standard of driving for the "very elderly" >>should be somehow lowered far enough to include such massive lapses of >>observation and judgement? > > No. And don't put words in my mouth; I never suggested such a thing. In > fact I > said I didn't know what the guy was thinking when he didn't stop. 70 is > getting > on, and my comments were about how the police dealt with him when he DID > stop! > > Mike > -- > http://www.corestore.org > 'As I walk along these shores > I am the history within'
From: Steve O on 6 Aug 2010 17:56
"Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:8c2n1qF8d0U4(a)mid.individual.net... > Mike Ross <mike(a)corestore.org> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying: > >>>> And, they KNEW they were dealing with a very elderly chap. Now there >>>> are some elderly chaps who are complete bastards, can be very >>>> aggressive, sure. Some were serious hard cases in their younger days, >>>> no doubt. But still, he was 70, they knew this, and I haven't heard >>>> anything to suggest he was aggresive. > >>>Apart from the fact that 70 is a long way from "very elderly", do you >>>think that the acceptable standard of driving for the "very elderly" >>>should be somehow lowered far enough to include such massive lapses of >>>observation and judgement? > >> No. And don't put words in my mouth; I never suggested such a thing. > > I'm not, and I know you didn't. I'm wanting to clarify - because it's the > only possible way in which his age becomes relevant. > >> 70 is getting on > > It's certainly not the first flush of youth - but it's a long way from > "very elderly". A relative-in-law is more than a decade older, still with > full complement of marbles and in top physical form - she's still > working, and at the peak of her career! Another relative-in-law died the > other year in his early '90s - in the gym, practicing the discus. |