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From: NM on 6 Aug 2010 12:40 On 6 Aug, 17:21, "zaax" <zaax_guard-gro...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Brimstone wrote: > > I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction. It's a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're the masters and we are to do their bidding. > > > There is a video on the website. > > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-s... > > > "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he was left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after catching him driving without a seatbelt. > > > When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers. > > > But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his windscreen while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton. > > > The ensuing action was caught on film by a police camera placed on the patrol car's dashboard." > > It's public knowledge that he has convictions for traffic offences, abusive behaviour and has made previous allegations against Police! Coincidence? > > Read more:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Robert-Whatleys-car-w... > > -- > --- > zaax > Frustration casues accidents: allow faster traffic to overtake. Where can I read this public knowledge, for me a response from an unidentified responder to an on line poll is insufficient for me to take what he says seriously. If it is true then it's even more damming against the police, are you saying they targeted him because of his previous behaviour, possibly a reason they vandalised his vehicle?
From: NM on 6 Aug 2010 12:41 On 6 Aug, 17:31, Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: > NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com> wrote innews:e2a782d3-1828-4688-b568-cf7edb3e6476(a)l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com: > > > > > On 6 Aug, 16:40, Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: > >> Mike Ross <m...(a)corestore.org> wrote > >> innews:8q6o5611tl7ejd8lesudp8gdhqbu8l6u57(a)4ax.com: > > >> > Having said that, the guy DID stop immediately when an officer in > >> > front of him indicated he should stop > > >> No he stopped when a police officer managed to deploy a Stinger in > >> front of him and there wasn't room to get past it. Not quite the same > >> thing. > > >> -- > > >> Regards, > > >> Periander > > > Him stopping and the stinger deployment ahead of him have yet to be > > shown as connected events, probably the cops in front waved him down > > and the stinger was incidental, possibly not even seen by him given > > his confused state, certainly the stinger did not stop him. > > I never said it did, I said that he stopped when a Stinger was deployed > in front of him in a position where he couldn't avoid it. That is > factually accurate. As for his "confused state" I suspect that he wasn't > all that confused when he drove into a police officer in his haste to > make good his escape. > If he did why was he not charged? seems like that is a bit of hyperbole.
From: Mike Ross on 6 Aug 2010 12:49 On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:37:59 +0100, Chelsea Tractor Man <mr.c.tractor(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:06:06 -0400, Mike Ross wrote: > >> I don't agree with extra-judicial punishment, even for arrogant >> wankers, and that appeared to me to be what the police did to his car. > >just opening a locked car that could contain an armed man. How would you do >it? I'm a fireman; I'd leave the job to the guys who couldn't make the grade as firefighters and became cops instead :-D Every car COULD contain an armed man, how do they usually do it? Mike -- http://www.corestore.org 'As I walk along these shores I am the history within'
From: Mike Ross on 6 Aug 2010 12:55 On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:31:18 GMT, Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: >NM <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in >news:e2a782d3-1828-4688-b568-cf7edb3e6476(a)l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com: > >> On 6 Aug, 16:40, Periander <ulm@.4rubbish.britwar.co.uk> wrote: >>> Mike Ross <m...(a)corestore.org> wrote >>> innews:8q6o5611tl7ejd8lesudp8gdhqbu8l6u57(a)4ax.com: >>> >>> >>> >>> > Having said that, the guy DID stop immediately when an officer in >>> > front of him indicated he should stop >>> >>> No he stopped when a police officer managed to deploy a Stinger in >>> front of him and there wasn't room to get past it. Not quite the same >>> thing. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Periander >> >> Him stopping and the stinger deployment ahead of him have yet to be >> shown as connected events, probably the cops in front waved him down >> and the stinger was incidental, possibly not even seen by him given >> his confused state, certainly the stinger did not stop him. > >I never said it did, I said that he stopped when a Stinger was deployed >in front of him in a position where he couldn't avoid it. That is >factually accurate. As for his "confused state" I suspect that he wasn't >all that confused when he drove into a police officer in his haste to >make good his escape. There's little information to suggest he was a hardened and desperate man willing to drive into a police officer to 'make good his escape' (for sufficiently small values of 'escape!'). More likely he forgot to put the bloody thing in park, or became flustered and trod on the wrong pedal. If you watch the video, after he does stop the car starts rolling back, which suggests some issues with having proper control. He quite possibly didn't even know he had hit the officer. Mike -- http://www.corestore.org 'As I walk along these shores I am the history within'
From: joe on 6 Aug 2010 13:06
Brimstone wrote: > I can't remember the last time I saw such an over the top reaction. > It's a wonderful example of how some public servants think they're > the masters and we are to do their bidding. > > There is a video on the website. > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Policemen-suspended-sm > ash-grab-raid-disabled-mans-Range-Rover.html > > "Two policemen were suspended after a disabled pensioner claimed he > was left terrified by officers who smashed his car window after > catching him driving without a seatbelt. > > When stroke victim Robert Whatley, 70, was pulled over in his Range > Rover, he expected a brief discussion with the officers. > > But he claims he was forced to cover his face and was showered with > glass as one officer jumped on to the bonnet and kicked his > windscreen while another repeatedly attacked the window with a baton. > > The ensuing action was caught on film by a police camera placed on > the patrol car's dashboard." I wonder why he did not just open the door? However, the bloke is an obvious jerk, and a danger on the roads, he shouldn't be driving at all. Quote But when an officer went round to the passenger side, the car lurched forward and he was knocked over. Mr Whatley told Caerphilly magistrates court, South Wales, that he then drove off because he thought the matter had been dealt with, felt �frail and vulnerable� and was worried he would suffer another stroke. The police followed him for 17 minutes, during which time he did not break the speed limit. Mr Whatley said he thought the blue lights and siren of the police car meant the officers were giving him an escort home. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1300608/Robert-Whatleys-car-wind ow-smashed-OAP-dragged-police-officers.html#ixzz0vqXD7EvY Unquote. TBH that's half my sympathy gone. -- |