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"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> > I don't have to offer an explanation. I have actually
> > done so, but you refuse to accept it, in exactly the
> > same way I refuse to accept being called a European.
>
> You have given no explanation as to why your are not
> European. Please feel free to do so.

I have done so. Ad nauseum. You refuse to accept my explanation. Your
problem.

Ivor


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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> > "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
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[snip]

> > > The language used does not alter the validity of the
> > > point AT ALL.
> >
> > It does, purely and simply because it shows the user of
> > the swear word to be intellectually incapable of making
> > a point without such usage. That in itself is enough to
> > convince me that they are wrong. If they were right,
> > they would be able to argue their point without
> > swearing.
>
> What a gross insult.

Oh dear. It's ok for you to insult me though, isn't it.

Ivor


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4ksbd0Fd6cjpU4(a)individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:mq6dnQFcQcnfInXZnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d(a)bt.com
>>>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>>>>> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:z76dnc5GefPmKXXZRVnyjA(a)bt.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you not want to be called something
>>>>>>>> that you are?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because I am not what you believe me to be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you believe I believe you to be?
>>>>>
>>>>> A European, of course. But then you knew that.
>>>>
>>>> So if you're not European, from which continent or
>>>> other geographic region of the world do your forebears
>>>> originate?
>>>
>>> Irrelevant. Whether they are or were European or not
>>> does not mean I am.
>>
>> Wrong, you can't be anything other than what your parents
>> were.
>
> Don't be so daft. You have already been proven wrong by others on that
> particular theme.

Not so.

> Everyone is an individual.

Not to the degree that you're trying to force upon everyone else.

>
>>> You may think otherwise, but you'd be wrong.
>>
>> How so?
>
> You've been told already.

No, you've only said what you consider yourself not to be, not what you are.
Tell us what you are and we'll all take a rest.

>
>>> Once again, I ask you to have respect for my wishes and
>>> beliefs. Show that you have *some* regard for others.
>>
>> Stop treating the rest of us as idiots and I'm sure there
>> will be reciprication.
>
> You first.

Since you chose to start this discussion, no one else can end it. Therefore
you will have to provide a tangible reason why you are not European since
all the evidence you've offered so far indicates that you are.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c9udnQLY4rN9ynTZRVny1Q(a)bt.com
>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4ksbd1Fd6cjpU8(a)individual.net...
>>> "Alex Heney" <me8(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:90ohe2p2em708dre2hu1mn9lv435rigm5l(a)4ax.com
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> The language used does not alter the validity of the
>>>> point AT ALL.
>>>
>>> It does, purely and simply because it shows the user of
>>> the swear word to be intellectually incapable of making
>>> a point without such usage. That in itself is enough to
>>> convince me that they are wrong. If they were right,
>>> they would be able to argue their point without
>>> swearing.
>>
>> What a gross insult.
>
> Oh dear. It's ok for you to insult me though, isn't it.

I haven't insulted you in any way, shape or form. I'm trying to understand
what it is about you that is not European.


From: Brimstone on
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:B9idnWE6dYVQxXTZnZ2dnUVZ8s-dnZ2d(a)bt.com
>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:4ksbd3Fd6cjpU18(a)individual.net...
>>
>>> I don't have to offer an explanation. I have actually
>>> done so, but you refuse to accept it, in exactly the
>>> same way I refuse to accept being called a European.
>>
>> You have given no explanation as to why your are not
>> European. Please feel free to do so.
>
> I have done so. Ad nauseum. You refuse to accept my explanation. Your
> problem.

No you haven't, you've only said what you are not.