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From: Brimstone on 2 May 2010 13:38 "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message news:QIKdnblQlMSAK0DWnZ2dnUVZ8vdi4p2d(a)pipex.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> >> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message >> news:waqdnX7q45OZBUDWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >>> Brimstone wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:bd1985ca-b750-41df-bae7-1c2c72a50450(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >>>>> On May 2, 8:41 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>> >>>>>> news:bbb423ba-85fd-4acc-bb9d-9360dcee38cb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >>>>>> > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the >>>>>> > fuel duty escalator, >>>>>> >>>>>> Introduced by the Tories and removed by Labour. >>>>> >>>>> Not always implemented by Nu Labour because the Government were >>>>> frightened of riots. It has been this year and in a staged manner. >>>> >>>> Show me where the Fuel Duty Escalator has been reintroduced. >>> >>> Three separate 1p a litre (4.545p a gallon) increases in the tax, plus >>> 17.5% on top of each of those in VAT, inside a year. >>> Let's see - in a hypothetical case where fuel was previously costing �1 >>> a litre (�4.55 a gallon), that would raise the price to �1.03525 a litre >>> (�4.71 a gallon). >>> >>> Does that not count, simply because the government - dishonestly have >>> not applied the name to it? >>> >> No it doesn't, that is the annual increase in fuel duty staged over >> several months rather than dumping on those paying all at once. It's not >> the fuel duty escalator. >> >> You obviously don't know what the Fuel Duty Escalator was. > > Never mind the name of it - we all know that Labour have been terrified > since 2000 of a re-emergence of the Peoples' Fuel Campaign - what is the > practical difference? If you don't know what the Fuel Duty Escalator was then there's no point in trying to explain. Google can help you out.
From: JNugent on 2 May 2010 13:43 Brimstone wrote: > > > "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message > news:QIKdnblQlMSAK0DWnZ2dnUVZ8vdi4p2d(a)pipex.net... >> Brimstone wrote: >>> >>> >>> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message >>> news:waqdnX7q45OZBUDWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>> news:bd1985ca-b750-41df-bae7-1c2c72a50450(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >>>>> >>>>>> On May 2, 8:41 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> news:bbb423ba-85fd-4acc-bb9d-9360dcee38cb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >>>>>>> > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the >>>>>>> > fuel duty escalator, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Introduced by the Tories and removed by Labour. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not always implemented by Nu Labour because the Government were >>>>>> frightened of riots. It has been this year and in a staged manner. >>>>> >>>>> Show me where the Fuel Duty Escalator has been reintroduced. >>>> >>>> Three separate 1p a litre (4.545p a gallon) increases in the tax, >>>> plus 17.5% on top of each of those in VAT, inside a year. >>>> Let's see - in a hypothetical case where fuel was previously costing >>>> �1 a litre (�4.55 a gallon), that would raise the price to �1.03525 >>>> a litre (�4.71 a gallon). >>>> >>>> Does that not count, simply because the government - dishonestly >>>> have not applied the name to it? >>>> >>> No it doesn't, that is the annual increase in fuel duty staged over >>> several months rather than dumping on those paying all at once. It's >>> not the fuel duty escalator. >>> >>> You obviously don't know what the Fuel Duty Escalator was. >> >> Never mind the name of it - we all know that Labour have been >> terrified since 2000 of a re-emergence of the Peoples' Fuel Campaign - >> what is the practical difference? > > If you don't know what the Fuel Duty Escalator was then there's no point > in trying to explain. We all know what it was. The current system is the same thing.
From: Brimstone on 2 May 2010 13:46 "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message news:gq-dnfpK6J0hJEDWnZ2dnUVZ8h5i4p2d(a)pipex.net... > Brimstone wrote: >> >> >> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message >> news:QIKdnblQlMSAK0DWnZ2dnUVZ8vdi4p2d(a)pipex.net... >>> Brimstone wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:waqdnX7q45OZBUDWnZ2dnUVZ7v6dnZ2d(a)pipex.net... >>>>> Brimstone wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>> news:bd1985ca-b750-41df-bae7-1c2c72a50450(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> On May 2, 8:41 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> news:bbb423ba-85fd-4acc-bb9d-9360dcee38cb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >>>>>>>> > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember >>>>>>>> > the >>>>>>>> > fuel duty escalator, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Introduced by the Tories and removed by Labour. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not always implemented by Nu Labour because the Government were >>>>>>> frightened of riots. It has been this year and in a staged manner. >>>>>> >>>>>> Show me where the Fuel Duty Escalator has been reintroduced. >>>>> >>>>> Three separate 1p a litre (4.545p a gallon) increases in the tax, plus >>>>> 17.5% on top of each of those in VAT, inside a year. >>>>> Let's see - in a hypothetical case where fuel was previously costing >>>>> �1 a litre (�4.55 a gallon), that would raise the price to �1.03525 a >>>>> litre (�4.71 a gallon). >>>>> >>>>> Does that not count, simply because the government - dishonestly have >>>>> not applied the name to it? >>>>> >>>> No it doesn't, that is the annual increase in fuel duty staged over >>>> several months rather than dumping on those paying all at once. It's >>>> not the fuel duty escalator. >>>> >>>> You obviously don't know what the Fuel Duty Escalator was. >>> >>> Never mind the name of it - we all know that Labour have been terrified >>> since 2000 of a re-emergence of the Peoples' Fuel Campaign - what is the >>> practical difference? >> >> If you don't know what the Fuel Duty Escalator was then there's no point >> in trying to explain. > > We all know what it was. > > The current system is the same thing. How so?
From: tim.... on 2 May 2010 14:02 "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:f842bd7c-615f-47a6-bab1-732dd1af185e(a)o8g2000yqo.googlegroups.com... On May 2, 12:17 pm, "GeoffC" <m...(a)home.invalid.com> wrote: > > Yup, UK is one of the cheapest places in W.Europe to run a car and the > cheaper countries have road tolls, (lots of 'em). > So stop whingeing. > > -- The UK is one of the most expensive countries in Europe to buy new cars and to buy fuel for them. France has a lot of toll roads, but you don't have to use them, as the national (toll free) roads are quite good anyway. --------------------------------------------------------------- Have you really tried? When I come off the toll road for a change of scenery we made such slow progress I got back on at the next possible opportunity. The road surface may be good, but the are full of junctions with limited opportunities for overtaking tim
From: tim.... on 2 May 2010 14:04
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:oIqdnXKKpvCl2UDWnZ2dnUVZ7tCdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:bd1985ca-b750-41df-bae7-1c2c72a50450(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> On May 2, 8:41 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>> >>> news:bbb423ba-85fd-4acc-bb9d-9360dcee38cb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >>> > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the >>> > fuel duty escalator, >>> >>> Introduced by the Tories and removed by Labour. >> >> Not always implemented by Nu Labour because the Government were >> frightened of riots. It has been this year and in a staged manner. > > Show me where the Fuel Duty Escalator has been reintroduced. > >>> > attacks on 4x4 SUVs, >>> >>> What "attacks", what "SUVs"? >> >> Until all the snow last winter, you were almost made a pariah for >> driving such a vehicle. > > Which doesn't answer the question, "What "attacks", what "SUVs"?" > >>> > special VED on new large engined cars, >>> >>> I can find no reference to any such thing. >> >> up to �900 for the 1st year for a new large engined car, introduced by >> Alister Darling. > > Define "large engine". I don't think that you can reasonably argue that NL didn't introduce draconian taxes on some new cars because the OP erroneously put "large engines" instead of "higher polluting engines" tim |