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From: JNugent on 3 May 2010 09:56 DavidR wrote: > "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote >> DavidR wrote: >>> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote >>>> DIESEL PRICES IN EUROPE & USA ... >>>> UK pence per litre (�1.21 in the UK) >>>> >>>> STARTQUOTE: >>>> Austria 98.78 no tolls >>>> Belgium 101.06 no tolls >>>> Czech 105.59 >>>> Denmark 115.39 no tolls >>>> Finland 100.09 >>>> France 111.58 >>>> Germany 107.64 no tolls >>>> Greece 106.58 >>>> Netherlands 107.28 no tolls >>>> Hungary 103.34 >>>> Ireland 107.02 >>>> Italy 113.78 >>>> Luxembourg 89.30 no tolls >>>> Estonia 96.38 >>>> Norway 130.64* (only one where fuel costs more than in the UK) >>>> Latvia 95.01 >>>> Lithuania 90.10 >>>> Poland Z93.63 >>>> Slovakia 97.02 >>>> Slovenia 98.69 >>>> Portugal 93.34 >>>> Spain 95.62 >>>> Sweden 116.27 >>>> Switzerland 106.96 no tolls (you have to pay an annual road tax) >>>> United States of America 52.89 >>>> Malta 90.35 >>>> Bulgaria 96.39 >>> I wonder how it would look if the list was quoted as a proportion of >>> average income for each country. I expect the Maltese or Bulgarians >>> must be going round with big smug grins wondering what to do with >>> their spare dosh. >>> Unlikely >>> I should think. Don't you? >> The point would be just as well-made - pwrhaps even better-made - if only >> Western European countries were included. >> Just think of the EU as it was around ten years ago. Except for Norway, we >> are the most expensive, and probably very near the bottom for wage levels. > Well, you provided list. If anybody wants to use it as evidence of high > British tax rates, it completely fails. What ARE you talking about? There's only one country on the list with a higher tax rate. *All* the difference is accounted for by tax. Just look at the USA price (where the tax on fuel is a fraction of what it is here). You are therefore 100% incorrect. Perhaps not quite 100%, but you could get there is you tried a tiny bit harder. > Though, I wouldn't be surprised if, out of the 10 peers, motoring taxes > overall, as a proportion of incomes, are well off the top rates. Whatever that means. Britain has the second highest tax on fuel in the discovered world, outdone only by Norway. And Broon probably has plans to come top (rather than second) any day now, given the chance.
From: JNugent on 3 May 2010 09:57 Conor wrote: > On 02/05/2010 23:42, JNugent wrote: >> So how - as the inevitable supplementary - does the amount (or the >> existence) of the NMW affect your buying power? >> It doesn't affect mine. > It doesn't affect it if you're paid above it however if you are on NMW, > the annual increases have been above inflation. Since you aren't on it (and presumably haven't been on it), it seems odd that you should cite it as a factor in your feeling of being "better off" in fuel price terms.
From: Silk on 3 May 2010 11:40 On 03/05/2010 14:57, JNugent wrote: > Conor wrote: > >> On 02/05/2010 23:42, JNugent wrote: > >>> So how - as the inevitable supplementary - does the amount (or the >>> existence) of the NMW affect your buying power? >>> It doesn't affect mine. > >> It doesn't affect it if you're paid above it however if you are on >> NMW, the annual increases have been above inflation. > > Since you aren't on it (and presumably haven't been on it), it seems odd > that you should cite it as a factor in your feeling of being "better > off" in fuel price terms. Typical Northern Labour voter: clueless when it comes to the bigger picture.
From: Silk on 3 May 2010 11:44 On 02/05/2010 16:13, McKevvy wrote: > Nationalise the public transport network and make it *truly* public. Poor people using the train? Gosh. Think of the smell. It's bad enough allowing them to walk the streets.
From: DavidR on 3 May 2010 12:13
"JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote > DavidR wrote: > >> Though, I wouldn't be surprised if, out of the 10 peers, motoring taxes >> overall, as a proportion of incomes, are well off the top rates. > > Whatever that means. It means what it says.(btw, motoring taxes aren't just the fuel tax.) |