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From: Alex Heney on 19 Aug 2006 21:26 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:21:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >"Tony Raven" <junk(a)raven-family.com> wrote in message >news:4kp56sFd3p9vU1(a)individual.net >> Ivor Jones wrote on 19/08/2006 18:44 +0100: >> > >> > I'm still not a European either. >> > >> >> OED: European n. >> >> B. 1. A native of Europe. >> >> Ergo you are a European and saying otherwise will not >> change the fact. > >I'm not a native of Europe, there is no such country. I can only be a >native of a country, not a continent. Utterly wrong. try having a look in a few dictionaries, for definitions of the word "native". You won't find one which limits it to countries. I do wish you would stop trying to redefine the English language to fit in with your prejudices. > >> You still haven't said whether you recognise the terms >> American, Asian, African or Australian. > >That's not relevant. > Of course it is. If you recognise those words as having meaning, then you must recognise "European" as having meaning. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager May you live in interesting times. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Alex Heney on 19 Aug 2006 21:28 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:05:22 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:He6dnWUtrqQf-3rZRVnyig(a)bt.com >> "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote in message >> news:4kp6lrFda5s5U1(a)individual.net... > >[snip] > >> So you know better than the Oxford English Dictionary? > >I don't live my life defined by a dictionary. No, but the words you use are defined either by a dictionary, or by common usage where that has not yet been incorporated. On either count, you are using the word incorrectly. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Never eat yellow snow! To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Alex Heney on 19 Aug 2006 21:29 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:08:11 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:ReOdnUU-DIik4HrZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com > >[snip] > >> Standing by your principles is good, unless you're wrong. >> Which you are. > >You don't know me. You cannot even begin to know whether I'm right or >wrong. > We do not need to know you at all. You are either lying about being English, or you are simply wrong about being European. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager It is incumbent on us to avoid archaisms. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Alex Heney on 19 Aug 2006 21:30 On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:21:00 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > >"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:0-qdneAJzPfP43rZRVnyrg(a)bt.com >> Ivor Jones wrote: >> > "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> > news:ReOdnUU-DIik4HrZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)bt.com >> > >> > [snip] >> > >> > > Standing by your principles is good, unless you're >> > > wrong. Which you are. >> > >> > You don't know me. You cannot even begin to know >> > whether I'm right or wrong. >> >> I'm referring only to this conversation, in which your >> stance is wrong. > >Unless you know me, you cannot begin to know whether my stance is wrong or >not. Which it isn't. Knowing you makes not the slightest bit of difference. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Windows: XT emulator for an AT. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom
From: Alex Heney on 19 Aug 2006 21:34
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 00:26:32 +0100, "Ivor Jones" <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: > > >"SteveH" <steve(a)italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message >news:1hkcdh2.14m071f1ng5q4iN%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk >> Ivor Jones <ivor(a)despammed.invalid> wrote: >> >> > > > How am I Welsh, when I was born in Essex..? >> > > > >> > > So if you were born in Essex, you're English. England >> > > is in Europe thus making you European. >> > >> > No. Europe is not a country. I am defined by my country >> > of birth not my continent of residence. >> > >> > You don't have the right to decide otherwise. >> >> FFS! >> >> The order of things is country - continent - planet. >> >> So, you're British - European - resident of the planet >> Earth. > >There is no order of things. Nationality is country, nothing else. > That is not true. Your *country* is England, but your *nationality* is British. Nationality is based on your *nation* not your *country* (although with many of the nations in the world, they are the same thing). But nobody has ever suggested that European is your nationality. It isn't, and it can't be, unless and until a nation of Europe comes into existence. But the fact that "European" is not your nationality does NOT mean you are not European. -- Alex Heney, Global Villager Software Independent: Won't work with ANY software. To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom |